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Old 07-01-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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Okay and any of your rant has anything to do with allowing same sex partners to get married, HOW?
Rant? THere is nothing stopping two people, regardless of sex to be or act as married...

No special permission needed.. just do it, if you want to. You don't need everyone else to accept it, or not accept it.

I certainly didn't need any permission to marry my wife. WHat God has joined together doesn't need Mankind to rubber stamp.
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Old 07-01-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Most people who are left-handed can still reproduce.

Your comparison is not logical.
EVERY Homosexual that doesn't have a medical condition preventing it or has been "fixed" can "reproduce", there goes that excuse ... try again.

I have known male and female Homosexuals that had children "naturally", I have known some that had them using medical intervention, just like many male/female pairs.

"Normal" depends on the sub-sets you are comparing, in a room full of blue eyed persons, a person with green eyes is "abnormal".

I think more people should take a Statistics class.
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Old 07-01-2013, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Rant? There is nothing stopping two people, regardless of sex to be or act as married...

No special permission needed.. just do it, if you want to. You don't need everyone else to accept it, or not accept it.

I certainly didn't need any permission to marry my wife. WHat God has joined together doesn't need Mankind to rubber stamp.
You do understand that legally, there are a lot of differences between "acting" and legal marriage, right?

So you would sanction a same-sex marriage performed by the UCC or other churches that are willing to do it?

I HATE the term "Gay Marriage", Gays have been getting married forever, just not to the person they really want to, but the person "society" told them they must marry. A Gay man marries a female where sex really isn't important to her and visa-verse, or they "cheat".
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:34 PM
 
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Many parents did not reproduce? Then they are not parents...Gays can only reproduce artificially. So it is a question of what society wants to accept - Natural verses the artificial. Is an artificial world one we want to live in? Does artifice trump reality and honesty? If you are gay by birth- conditioning or by choice...you either through nature or choice or chance forfeit your right to offspring...natural or adopted - That is the nature of homosexuality..that you do not have children. Prior this modern era - homosexuals accepted the fact that they will never have children. Now - they are governed by greed and want everything. The idea of a gay man masturbating into a test tube looking at porn in some progressive clinic and then finding either a dupe female or one they can pay to bare a child is very unsavory...It smacks of the super un-natural....In the alternative...if there is a child that no one wants with no hope of being adopted- let gays have them.
What??? Talk about a total fail of an argument

1) I think you're insulting people who can't have kids or won't have kids;
2) I think you're erroneously and illogically stating that gays have no ova and no sperm;
3) I think you're pulling bizarre ideologies out of somewhere - things that say gay people are bad, bad, bad if they refuse to suffer by living according to your religious beliefs;
4) I think you're saying that sperm lab tests are "bad."

????????????

I am soooo confused as to how someone could even think this way!
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:36 PM
 
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Rant? THere is nothing stopping two people, regardless of sex to be or act as married...

No special permission needed.. just do it, if you want to. You don't need everyone else to accept it, or not accept it.

I certainly didn't need any permission to marry my wife. WHat God has joined together doesn't need Mankind to rubber stamp.
Wait a minute. I'm getting married in Oct. Are you saying that if I just live with my man, it's the same thing?
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Most people who are homosexual can still reproduce.
Not when they try to do so with the same sex.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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EVERY Homosexual that doesn't have a medical condition preventing it or has been "fixed" can "reproduce", there goes that excuse ... try again.

I have known male and female Homosexuals that had children "naturally", I have known some that had them using medical intervention, just like many male/female pairs.

"Normal" depends on the sub-sets you are comparing, in a room full of blue eyed persons, a person with green eyes is "abnormal".

I think more people should take a Statistics class.
Normal... a man/woman relationship, which may or may not lead to marriage. Regardless if they are or are not left-handed or have or don't have blue eyes or green eyes. See, that's not so hard to explain!
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:42 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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This. I had a "mother" and a "father" and trust me when I say I would have rather had two loving parents of the same sex than what I got stuck with.

Two same-sex "parents" are just as likely to ****ty parents as a heterosexual couple, so that doesn't really get us anywhere.

I believe, and with few exceptions, the best parents for any child are his or her biological parents.

Both sexes bring something special to parenting, so to deprive children of this for no better reason than two homosexuals want to play house and say "us too" exploits children.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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Not when they try to do so with the same sex.
But yes when they do it by hiring someone or a friend volunteers. Why do you give a damn how other people live? Does it burn the h*ll out of you that others are living well?
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:13 AM
 
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I've been hearing and reading this being asserted more and more and as a result of the Court's decision on DOA I've heard it more than ever. So my question is how does this "right" work in the real world?
All children DO have a mother and a father.

Because of immorality, the mother and father screw things up - and this is hetero immorality.

This is really not a homosexual issue since no child is produced from this style of relationship.
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