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Old 07-05-2013, 10:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by FancyFeast5000 View Post
Bringing those personal notes into court and referring to them during testimony was a HUGE, HUGE mistake by the M.E. and the prosecution for not making sure he understood that rule about any notes they take to the witness stand CAN and WILL be given to the opposite party if they refer to them.
And, they were.

So where's the problem?

 
Old 07-05-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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Yeah.

Zero.” LOL. He’s just relying on his notes/autopsy report.

Bao is running full speed in reverse.

And Judge Nelson has pretty much, once again, lost control of her courtroom.
He preempted lawyer gamering of his testimony, to keep from having it photoshopped.

Kudos, M.E.!
 
Old 07-05-2013, 10:12 AM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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That goes to the ability of the jurors, in this case women, to think logically. Are you saying they can't? Doesn't that go against what someone said, possibly you, when I was called a misogynist, because I quipped that the women on the jury might not be able to use logic?

If they find that self defense is reasonable here, that means that TM needed to be shot. I hope that a woman would have more than just emotion to work with when sitting in a jury.
I think the question will boil down to simply, did GZ have reasonable fear for self defense actions to be taken.

This witness is muddying the waters for both sides in my opinion.

His conduct on the stand is peculiar at best.

I have no opinion yet as to the direction his testimony will benefit. He is certainly being given a lot of leeway though.
 
Old 07-05-2013, 10:14 AM
 
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The M.E. is presenting unalterable testimony.

Fk lawyers!
 
Old 07-05-2013, 10:14 AM
 
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You do realize that I'm a woman right? Oh and to add, I couldn't disagree more with you. Personally, I think women make excellent jurors because they tend to be more detail oriented in my opinion.
I couldn't care less if you're a woman or not. These women are going to convict Zimmerman despite there being reasonable doubt.

Nothing about this case has shown me that the shooting was anything other than self-defense.
 
Old 07-05-2013, 10:14 AM
 
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That goes to the ability of the jurors, in this case women, to think logically. Are you saying they can't? Doesn't that go against what someone said, possibly you, when I was called a misogynist, because I quipped that the women on the jury might not be able to use logic?

If they find that self defense is reasonable here, that means that TM needed to be shot. I hope that a woman would have more than just emotion to work with when sitting in a jury.
Women have the ability to think logically and intuitively. BOTH. IMO, it's logical and intuitive to think that Zimmerman had little regard for human life if he shot Martin and then jumped on top of him when Martin was lying face down, hands underneath him, and turned him over while Martin was in pain and suffering and dying.

All you folks that think walking into a courtroom somehow enables human beings to become unemotional robots, you really should go to your local courthouse and sit through and entire criminal trial.
 
Old 07-05-2013, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I couldn't care less if you're a woman or not. These women are going to convict Zimmerman despite there being reasonable doubt.

Nothing about this case has shown me that the shooting was anything other than self-defense.
Hmm, as a woman, I do not think he should be convicted either. However, I object to your perception of women and gross generalization that the all-female jury cannot be objective.
 
Old 07-05-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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I think the question will boil down to simply, did GZ have reasonable fear for self defense actions to be taken.

This witness is muddying the waters for both sides in my opinion.

His conduct on the stand is peculiar at best.

I have no opinion yet as to the direction his testimony will benefit. He is certainly being given a lot of leeway though.
Key word...."reasonable." Additionally, it will boil down to whether or not the jury BELIEVES what Zimmerman has said...his statements prior to trial.
 
Old 07-05-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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Hmm, as a woman, I do not think he should be convicted either. However, I object to your perception of women and gross generalization that the all-female jury cannot be objective.
If you think he should not be convicted, you may be suffering from non-objectivity.
 
Old 07-05-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Houston
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If you think he should not be convicted, you may be suffering from non-objectivity.
That is funny!! Keep 'em coming. The state's final witness is an unmitigated disaster.
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