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Oh, so one officers word is some kind of smoking gun?
Older folks call 20/21 year olds "kid" all the time. Have you ever watched sports? In football and baseball rookies or young players get called "kid" all the time. But are they? No. It's a figure of speech!!
Call him a kid....call him a toddler....or an infant.
Bottom line is...if you are grown enough to take a grown man to task....you are a threat. Period. I don't care if you are 2 or 200.
It doesnt raise reasonable doubt of anything, you and the other guy are arguing that because Zimmerman lost the fight, it makes it less likely that he started it and that just isnt true.
I'm saying he had a story that was supported by physical evidence and by testimony from eye witnesses and forensic experts. That creates reasonable doubt. You're saying he didn't prove who threw the first punch which is not his burden or the legal standard for guilt or innocence.
Damn. .do you folks ever get tired of crying and whining about sh*t?
Zimmerman is free..the guy in this case is being tried.
Move the hell on.
In a way, i wish i didnt give a damn...it would make life more carefree , but there are certain things that are just too important not only bc of the initial injustice but also in a larger sense, bc it affects society as a whole, so Im kinda a whiner like that. I hope to do what I can to at least try to leave the world a little better for future ge erations.
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I'm saying he had a story that was supported by physical evidence and by testimony from eye witnesses and forensic experts. That creates reasonable doubt. You're saying he didn't prove who threw the first punch which is not his burden or the legal standard for guilt or innocence.
The evidence,no witness and no forensic expert that in any way supported his story, it only supported the claim that he was losing the fight, a claim i never disputed.
Story= Martin sneaking up on him and striking him first.
not sure when i made the claim that is was(referring to the bold), but im not sure that you are correct there either.
I'm saying he had a story that was supported by physical evidence and by testimony from eye witnesses and forensic experts. That creates reasonable doubt. You're saying he didn't prove who threw the first punch which is not his burden or the legal standard for guilt or innocence.
Thou doth remember not the testimony of other witnesses saying the opposite
The evidence,no witness and no forensic expert that in any way supported his story, it only supported the claim that he was losing the fight, a claim i never disputed.
Support his story does not equate to proving every detail.
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not sure when i made the claim that is was(referring to the bold), but im not sure that you are correct there either.
Not sure I understand. Are you saying you don't know if this is correct: "is not his burden or the legal standard for guilt or innocence."
In a way, i wish i didnt give a damn...it would make life more carefree , but there are certain things that are just too important not only bc of the initial injustice but also in a larger sense, bc it affects society as a whole, so Im kinda a whiner like that. I hope to do what I can to at least try to leave the world a little better for future ge erations.
Not really talking about you directly ....
I'm talking about pot stirrers like the OP that wanted Martin dead for being a so called "thug" and wanted Zimmerman to go free...
Well, they got their goddamn wish. So why don't they just drop it at this point and move on. They're the ones that keep making these threads.
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