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Old 07-29-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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How could this be? Liberal mayors are incompetent. Just look at Detroit.


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That's the message of a new study that looks at the connection between geography and social mobility in the United States. It turns out modern-day Horatio Algers have just as much a chance in much of the country as they do anywhere else in the world today. But if you want to move up, don't move to the South. As you can see in the chart below from David Leonhardt's write-up in the New York Times, the American Dream is on life support below the Mason Dixon line.



Are the Suburbs Where the American Dream Goes to Die? - Matthew O'Brien - The Atlantic
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Yup, I saw this. Less segregation was a positive indicator of upward mobility. I would want to dig a little deeper into this, to see how mixed the neighborhoods were.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:05 PM
 
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Seems like sort of a 'duh' study.

Poor children lucky enough to be raised in San Francisco, NYC and other rich cities have a better chance of becoming successful than those raised in the suburbs of Atlanta? Well duh.

I'm not sure why this is supposed to mean that the suburbs are horrible awful evil places. We can't all grow up in San Francisco. I live here and I almost can't remember the last time I saw an actual child walking around in SF.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Happy wherever I am - Florida now
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It seems that North Dakota is the place to be/
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:50 PM
 
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Your title really doesn't match up with your picture there, just looks like the southeast isn't the place to be. Well I am shocked.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Detroit would be a prime example.. North, South, East or West, you can keep all your cities...
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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How could this be? Liberal mayors are incompetent. Just look at Detroit.







Are the Suburbs Where the American Dream Goes to Die? - Matthew O'Brien - The Atlantic
This, to me, looks to be more of a race thing than a Republican vs Democrat thing. Some very Republican states actually do well according to this map. If you are familiar with the demographics of the dark red areas, you would know what I am talking about. What it shows is there is still something very wrong in America in that African-American children are far less likely to rise to the top than white children.
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:06 AM
 
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Yup, I saw this. Less segregation was a positive indicator of upward mobility. I would want to dig a little deeper into this, to see how mixed the neighborhoods were.
That doesn't seem to be a factor. The least segregated cities are in the south. The NE is the most segregated. From the article "What seems to matter more is the amount of sprawl, the number of two-parent households, the quality of elementary and high schools, and how involved people are in things like religious and community groups."
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:09 AM
 
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It seems that North Dakota is the place to be/
Yep, as long as the oil lasts.

Who among you will be the first to move there?
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I worked the oil fields for 25 years.. If I were younger, you can bet I would already be up there again.. I made a lot of money working in the oil patch and you won't hear me crying about it, or the work...
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