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Old 07-30-2013, 02:15 PM
 
Location: texas
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FINALLY...yes the Constitution should be changed. At least one parent must be a citizen.
That is what other countries are doing.
No it shouldn't. not for tourism. there is no right for anyone to visit the US. The pregnant visitor is the problem..not the 14th amendment.

 
Old 07-30-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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that is not a law, that is a right. How does that effect tourism births. Are you saying you want to change the US Constitution?

If you believe tourism births are a problem address that.
So you do not have a first amendment right because their is no law that says you do? Is that really your argument?
 
Old 07-30-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No it shouldn't. not for tourism. there is no right for anyone to visit the US. The pregnant visitor is the problem..not the 14th amendment.
Birth tourism, anchor babies, etc.

The 14th amendment as it stands today is the problem.

You don't want to change the Constitution fine then end all welfare programs.
We're at $1 trillion dollars and growing by 20% annually. It's unsustainable.
 
Old 07-30-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: texas
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So you do not have a first amendment right because their is no law that says you do? Is that really your argument?
NO. I dont need a freedom of speech law when I have the right.

there can be a law banning a pregnant woman tourists to enter the US. There doesnt have ot be a change to the US Constitution.
 
Old 07-30-2013, 02:23 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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NO. I dont need a freedom of speech law when I have the right.

there can be a law banning a pregnant woman tourists to enter the US. There doesnt have ot be a change to the US Constitution.
We can't stop murders and rapists from entering this country, what makes you think we can stop pregnant women.
 
Old 07-30-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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We can try to ban all pregnanat women from traveling to America. Wouldn't be to hard to profile a prego.

Maybe we should give evey woman and female teen coming into America a EPT test?
A better way would be to reinterpret birthright citizenship. Birth tourism is only a part of the problem. Illegals come here and give birth on our soil also. Both of the above makes a mockery out of our citizenship and costs us billions.
 
Old 07-30-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: texas
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Birth tourism, anchor babies, etc.

The 14th amendment as it stands today is the problem.

You don't want to change the Constitution fine then end all welfare programs.
We're at $1 trillion dollars and growing by 20% annually. It's unsustainable.
Welfare is not a constitutional right. you dont change the constitution if welfare is the problem.

There is no such thing as a "anchor baby". not in law, not in the US Constiution.

Show me the section of US Federal Code or Article of US Constituion that defines "anchor baby"?
 
Old 07-30-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: texas
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A better way would be to reinterpret birthright citizenship. Birth tourism is only a part of the problem. Illegals come here and give birth on our soil also. Both of the above makes a mockery out of our citizenship and costs us billions.
the discussion is pregnant women visiting the us...how to ban them.

I know you are chomping at the bit to regergetate your ilegal alien hispanic ethinicetric conspiracy spiel...so have at it.
 
Old 07-30-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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No it shouldn't. not for tourism. there is no right for anyone to visit the US. The pregnant visitor is the problem..not the 14th amendment.
No the "misinterpretation" of the 14th is the problem. It needs clarification as the writers of it intended. There has never been a case that has come before the SC to clarify birth tourism and illegals giving birth on our soil and their newborns being deemed U.S. citizens. It has merely been assumed.

At any rate many countries have changed their requirement to attain birthright citizenship. Why should we be any different considering the negative impact this has had on our country?
 
Old 07-30-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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the discussion is pregnant women visiting the us...how to ban them.

I know you are chomping at the bit to regergetate your ilegal alien hispanic ethinicetric conspiracy spiel...so have at it.
Both are an issue. No need to ban pregnant women from "visiting" us just reinterpret the requirements for birthright citizenship. No conspiracy, just the facts that many Hispanics are ethnocentric and it is mostly Hispanics here illegally giving birth on our soil. You have never once denied that all of this is true you just hurl insults instead. Can't defend the undefensible, can you?

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