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Yes, our local governor is in the process of issuing $3B in new state bonds to be spent on roads and bridges. If that was done in every state, that would be $150B (average). about 1/6th the size of the stimulus bill.. That makes me wonder where the hell all of that money went if they still need to be issuing new bonds to fix these roads that should have been fixed just a few years ago...
Actually if you remember back to 2007, you would remember that Democrats had a super majority and could do ANYTHING they wanted, like ObamaCare WITHOUT any repub help.
IF it was SO important, why didn't they "fix" everything then.
Oh wait, they had the Stimulus bill which was SUPPOSED to fix all these problems. Why didn't they?
"Get me once, shame on you. Get me twice, shame on me."
2007? The Democrats did not have a super majority then, they only had 49 seats and two independents that typically vote Democrat. Also, Bush was in office in 2007, so I don't know why Obamacare would of been proposed or called Obamacare then, it would of been called Bushcare or something.
Which stimulus bill in 2007 are you referring to?
And I think it was " Fool me once, shame, shame on you..... It fooled me you can't get fooled again."
-GWB
When did the stimulus happen? You just answered your own question. Wow, so you clicked on three out of the thousands of links and found section 8, am I suppose to be impressed with your laziness?
The stimulus isnt over.. Thats why the CBO computed the cost of the bill to be over $3 Trillion, while you stand here and proclaim Obama holds no responsibility for the spending taking place..
"So are you trying to say we shouldn't fix crumbling bridges?"
Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
IF it is a FEDERAL bridge ALL American citizens are responsible to fix it
IF it is a LOCAL bridge, ONLY the people of that locale are RESPONSIBLE to fix it.
IMO, you would like to see ALL states abolished and just to go to a Federal nation.
Let the feds take care of everything.
That would be a false opinion, but I do understand the importance of infrastructure even at a local level, and I understand the importance of even local infrastructure on a federal level that should be a concern to all Americans.
Complete Interstate 69.
Replace bridges.
More border crossing on our borders, tone down security.
A mini van full of tourist from yadda yadda, Ontario are not going to blow up the country, trust me.
Your response ignores the reality that delinquencies and foreclosures were already accelerating, and when worthless mbas started getting margin called against no asset backing...then the whole house of cards fell in. Nothing was going to forestall what happened, short of universal debt forgiveness. It is where Greece, et al find themselves.
We are already seeing a substantial percentage of the reworked mortgages in delinquency and foreclosure. Some, many apparently, people are ill-equipped to handle the responsibility of a mortgage; in any shape or form. A juiced housing market is a economic foundation built upon sand. Luke 6:48, among others.
That is true, and it didn't help that the construction industry and jobs related to construction were shedding employees left and right increasing the number of people who were having a hard time paying their mortgages. That doesn't mean it would of prevented the housing burst, but it would of slowed the bleeding.
Yes, our local governor is in the process of issuing $3B in new state bonds to be spent on roads and bridges. If that was done in every state, that would be $150B (average). about 1/6th the size of the stimulus bill.. That makes me wonder where the hell all of that money went if they still need to be issuing new bonds to fix these roads that should have been fixed just a few years ago...
Will that $3B fix every bridge and road in the state?
That is true, and it didn't help that the construction industry and jobs related to construction were shedding employees left and right increasing the number of people who were having a hard time paying their mortgages. That doesn't mean it would of prevented the housing burst, but it would of slowed the bleeding.
Thats not true. The economic collapse stopped before the stimulus bill was passed and being spent.
He's already admitted that 'shovel-ready' jobs don't exist, primarily due to exhaustive environmental studies which must be completed any major construction anywhere in the country takes place; it took over a year for an EIR to be completed on the proposed building of a new football stadium in downtown Los Angeles.
How stupid is that?
Furthermore, look at a map of the USA and think of all of the major cities which could be directly connected with interstate highways; Dallas to Denver makes too much sense, as does KC to Chicago or Dallas to New Orleans, which means it'll never happen.
Will that $3B fix every bridge and road in the state?
If they are in such disrepair that bonds need to be issued to fix them now, rather than their scheduled repair period, then why werent they fixed during the stimulus bill which was to fix the most needed roads and bridges? Stop being obtuse
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