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Old 08-08-2013, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Obama administration using housing department to compel diversity in neighborhoods | Fox News

All I can say is wow.....

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In a move some claim is tantamount to social engineering, the Department of Housing and Urban Development is imposing a new rule that would allow the feds to track diversity in America’s neighborhoods and then push policies to change those it deems discriminatory.
The policy is called, "Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing." It will require HUD to gather data on segregation and discrimination in every single neighborhood and try to remedy it.
HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan unveiled the federal rule at the NAACP convention in July.


Really? They are now going to tell people that they have a certain diversity in their neighborhoods? It's one thing to tell someone they can't be there because they are the wrong race/sex/color/sexuality, etc etc. It's another to tell people that they HAVE to get someone of a different race to move in.

What if a neighborhood is predominantly black? Are they going to force white people to move there? What if a neighborhood is predominantly hispanic, are they going to tell them they cannot sell to another hispanic, they have to choose a black, or asian family to sell to, or they cannot sell the property?

Like i said, it's one thing to try to prevent someone from moving in, it's a far differing problem when they tell you what a neighborhood's racial makeup has to be......

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Old 08-08-2013, 06:16 AM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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If anyone really wants to promote diversity, the question of race should be removed from every application there is.

That's the only true way to be fair and equal.
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:17 AM
 
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Yeah, it shocks bigots when they can no longer exclude "those people."
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Yeah, it shocks bigots when they can no longer exclude "those people."
No, they aren't talking about bigots, they are talking about forcing diversity. That's a far different thing than telling someone we don't want you because you are different. It's telling someone they cannot sell to you because you AREN'T different.

Let's say you found a new house you wanted, and decided to buy, but were told that there were too many people of your sex/color in the neighborhood, and that you cannot buy the house because it has to be sold to someone not the same color/sex as you are. THAT'S what they are talking about. Not bigotry.

Comprehension is key. Shocking isn't it.
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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No, they aren't talking about bigots, they are talking about forcing diversity. That's a far different thing than telling someone we don't want you because you are different. It's telling someone they cannot sell to you because you AREN'T different.

Let's say you found a new house you wanted, and decided to buy, but were told that there were too many people of your sex/color in the neighborhood, and that you cannot buy the house because it has to be sold to someone not the same color/sex as you are. THAT'S what they are talking about. Not bigotry.

Comprehension is key. Shocking isn't it.
They tried this in the 70's with our schools and it's taken over forty years for our cities to even begin to recover.
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:29 AM
 
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It's telling someone they cannot sell to you because you AREN'T different.
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Specifics of the proposed rule are lacking.
How can you say what it will do if there are no specifics?

Telepathy?
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:51 AM
 
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If anyone really wants to promote diversity, the question of race should be removed from every application there is.

That's the only true way to be fair and equal.
+1

Have to spread some reps around before I can rep you again
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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How can you say what it will do if there are no specifics?

Telepathy?
How about past experience?
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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How can you say what it will do if there are no specifics?

Telepathy?
How can YOU say it won't if there are no specifics ?

Best you can do is draw from history and make conclusions.
It's called critical thinking.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:46 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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California has been doing this type of forced, social engineering for years. Builders of new housing developments have to include a certain percentage of low income housing. Consequently, if you wish to buy in a new development you no longer have the ability to purchase and select your neighbors based on overall socio-economic status. There will be low-income apartments in with all the comparatively upper scale, single family homes. The results have been predictable. Otherwise nice, new neighborhoods have their own, built-in sources of property, drug and other crimes as well as a bit of ready-made blight. More proof, as if we really needed any more, that government should stay out of our private lives and stop trying to make us all the same. We're not!

It takes me back about 35 years when I put all my children in private school because the government wanted to bus them to other schools well outside of our neighborhood.
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