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Old 08-17-2013, 04:39 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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NYC mayor Bloomberg is proposing that all public housing residents be fingerprinted as a condition of residence in such complexes.

Is this a good idea to fight the higher levels of crime found in such places? - or a "nanny/police state" violation of privacy against people who (for the most part) have done nothing wrong and are simply poor?

I'm especially interested in seeing what Libertarian/Conservatives think on this issue. Many of you complain about the government "overstepping it's bounds" - do you still feel this way when the "targets" are generally minorities in crime-ridden areas? - is that OK then?

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...219951801.html

Ken
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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Silly question, there should be no public housing in the first place.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:41 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Silly question, there should be no public housing in the first place.
Doesn't change the fact that there is.
Whether or not there should be public housing is not the question.

Man up.

Ken
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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Man up to what? Its not my problem if you dont see the bigger issue.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:46 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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NYC mayor Bloomberg is proposing that all public housing residents be fingerprinted as a condition of residence in such complexes.

Is this a good idea to fight the higher levels of crime found in such places? - or a "nanny/police state" violation of privacy against people who (for the most part) have done nothing wrong and are simply poor?

I'm especially interested in seeing what Libertarian/Conservatives think on this issue. Many of you complain about the government "overstepping it's bounds" - do you still feel this way when the "targets" are generally minorities in crime-ridden areas? - is that OK then?

NYC Mayor: Public Housing Residents Should Be Fingerprinted as Crime-Fighting Measure | NBC New York

Ken
Neither a Libertarian or a Conservative but I don't think of them as "targets." I think of them a recipients and what they receive is coming from the American taxpayer. I don't care what ethnicity the recipients are. They are the ones who turn housing projects into crime-ridden areas. If fingerprinting will help then for them it's the cost of doing business with the public's funds.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:47 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Man up to what? Its not my problem if you dont see the bigger issue.
Chicksh*t answer.
Figures.
I have to say I'm not at all surprised.

Ken
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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We already know the crime element is high in public housing.
So yes, fingerprint with application.
And staying in the law should be part of public housing. Get convicted, get thrown out.

Time to clean up the system and give the truly poor a chance at decent living.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Central, IL
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Neither a Libertarian or a Conservative but I don't think of them as "targets." I think of them a recipients and what they receive is coming from the American taxpayer. I don't care what ethnicity the recipients are. They are the ones who turn housing projects into crime-ridden areas. If fingerprinting will help then for them it's the cost of doing business with the public's funds.
But what about the housing projects that are not crime-ridden?
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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But what about the housing projects that are not crime-ridden?
Then nobody gets thrown out.
You have to be consistent across the board.
There are more bad projects than good.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:49 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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But what about the housing projects that are not crime-ridden?
I wouldn't discriminate. If you're going to print for one then print for all.
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