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He will be out way before then. He is eligible for parole in around 5 years as I understand it. (8 years with time already served).
When the many lawsuits make it through the courts showing how many unconstitutional activities the government has been involved in get ruled on there will be no will to keep him in prison.
Not long enough, and he certainly deserves to be locked up for every day of that time. If he were to get out in 10 years, that would amount to nothing more than a slap on his limp wrist for what he did.
I don't know whether you mean wow as in not enough or wow as in too much.
Personally I don't believe he ever deserves to be a free man again. Whistle blowers release information about criminal activity. He isn't a whistle blower. He released thousands of documents that served no legitimate purpose to be leaked.
He showed us a video of pilots shooting at innocent/unarmed reporters... how is that not "whistle blowing"?
He showed us a video of pilots shooting at innocent/unarmed reporters... how is that not "whistle blowing"?
Here's the difference:
If Bradley Manning had released only those select classified documents that blew the whistle on unethical activity, he might have been a hero with justice on his side.
Instead, Bradley Manning chose to dump over 700,000 classified documents out on the internet for anyone to go through, most of which he surely didn't know the possible implications of.
That's not heroic, patriotic activity; it's reckless disregard for the sworn secrecy that is obviously critical to the function of any military / intelligence organization.
We can't just condone people with access to top intelligence just dumping troves of intel out on the internet anytime they get a bee in their bonnet, and that's why he got what he deserved.
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So if they "served no legitimate purpose to be leaked"....why is he in jail?..also who would decide if they were "legitimate" to be "leaked"?...Pretty sad when people don't want to know the truth, and society punishes or outright kills those who do...
He means there was no legit purpose for leaking them, not that the documents had no legit purpose. Obviously, intelligence orgs are the ones who decide what is and is not classified. It is sheer lunacy to think that you can live safely in the modern world under a model where there is no military / national intelligence and everything is open to the public. Do you really think we can just put all our missile launch codes, SEAL team member names, and aircraft carrier destination orders online for everyone to stare at?
He means there was no legit purpose for leaking them, not that the documents had no legit purpose. Obviously, intelligence orgs are the ones who decide what is and is not classified. It is sheer lunacy to think that you can live safely in the modern world under a model where there is no military / national intelligence and everything is open to the public. Do you really think we can just put all our missile launch codes, SEAL team member names, and aircraft carrier destination orders online for everyone to stare at?
America: Do you spy on us?
Government: No, we do not.
Washington Post: According to our research you do.
Government: Well, O.K. but not on purpose.
Washington Post: you've been caught misleading judges and running counter to the laws over and over according to the record.
If Bradley Manning had released only those select classified documents that blew the whistle on unethical activity, he might have been a hero with justice on his side.
Instead, Bradley Manning chose to dump over 700,000 classified documents out on the internet for anyone to go through, most of which he surely didn't know the possible implications of.
That's not heroic, patriotic activity; it's reckless disregard for the sworn secrecy that is obviously critical to the function of any military / intelligence organization.
We can't just condone people with access to top intelligence just dumping troves of intel out on the internet anytime they get a bee in their bonnet, and that's why he got what he deserved.
He means there was no legit purpose for leaking them, not that the documents had no legit purpose. Obviously, intelligence orgs are the ones who decide what is and is not classified. It is sheer lunacy to think that you can live safely in the modern world under a model where there is no military / national intelligence and everything is open to the public. Do you really think we can just put all our missile launch codes, SEAL team member names, and aircraft carrier destination orders online for everyone to stare at?
Now cut that out! You're making sense. Clearly you have an unfair advantage over Manning's supporters. You possess critical thinking skills.
If Bradley Manning had released only those select classified documents that blew the whistle on unethical activity, he might have been a hero with justice on his side.
Instead, Bradley Manning chose to dump over 700,000 classified documents out on the internet for anyone to go through, most of which he surely didn't know the possible implications of.
That's not heroic, patriotic activity; it's reckless disregard for the sworn secrecy that is obviously critical to the function of any military / intelligence organization.
We can't just condone people with access to top intelligence just dumping troves of intel out on the internet anytime they get a bee in their bonnet, and that's why he got what he deserved.
He means there was no legit purpose for leaking them, not that the documents had no legit purpose. Obviously, intelligence orgs are the ones who decide what is and is not classified. It is sheer lunacy to think that you can live safely in the modern world under a model where there is no military / national intelligence and everything is open to the public. Do you really think we can just put all our missile launch codes, SEAL team member names, and aircraft carrier destination orders online for everyone to stare at?
Who has said that the state should be allowed no ability to conduct covert operations, must reveal everything to the public or have no military. I must have missed that. More than anything, I think it was dumb to release everything, because it allows the fascists to obscure the important information that should have been leaked.
Now, the remaining question is whether Manning should spend a decade in prison for this. You can probably guess my opinion. As many have already pointed out, the purveyors of the murder and torture that he did expose, largely remain without prosecution. What a fascinating statement about this stupid country.
Who has said that the state should be allowed no ability to conduct covert operations, must reveal everything to the public or have no military. I must have missed that. More than anything, I think it was dumb to release everything, because it allows the fascists to obscure the important information that should have been leaked.
Now, the remaining question is whether Manning should spend a decade in prison for this. You can probably guess my opinion. As many have already pointed out, the purveyors of the murder and torture that he did expose, largely remain without prosecution. What a fascinating statement about this stupid country.
Does that mean we can count on you unassing the AO sometime in the near future?
Does that mean we can count on you unassing the AO sometime in the near future?
I'm opposed to both assing and unassing, so no.
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Got it... great logic. 
