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According to most posters on the CD's black forum, it is genetic disposition that causes black teens to be more violent... so what can be done?
If [according to most CD posters] blacks are genetically programed to be more violent, then why all the concern? No one would contemplate changing a Tiger's disposition. Changing black folk to be less violent is against God's intelligent design.
Actually, a small portion of the Black population is committing those crimes. There might be more crimes committed by Blacks, but Blacks are also more likely to be caught and arrested. On the occasion that a Black person commits a crime, that Black person is more likely to be caught, arrested, and jailed for that crime. And the natures of the crimes is something to look at. White-collar crimes get lesser punishments than blue collar crimes. Blacks are more likely to be involved in blue collar crime, and more likely to be caught. And since blue-collar crimes carry a heavier sentence, Blacks who commit them, or anyone who commits them, get put in prison longer. And then consider this. Alot of money buys a good lawyers. Most Blacks who get involved in crime don't have that kind of money for a good lawyer. Lack of a good lawyer also means the higher likelihood of a guilty verdict, and a prison sentence following that.
So you're going to disregard the fact much of the crime that blacks commit is violent and involves bodily harm? That's MUCH worse than being defrauded of money or something else that doesn't include being physically hurt. So with that in mind why wouldn't you give longer sentences for hurting or even killing people and especially if they're repeat offenders? Are these the kind of people you want on your streets?
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Originally Posted by DoniDanko
Yes, but it's dumbfounding that whites in this forum and a lot them in general who think because way less than 1% of a race is committing crimes, that something is wrong with the entire race. They think the other 13% have a crime problem because less than 1% commits crime. They are incapable or refuse to accept this fact. They think that most of the black race are criminals who commit 50% of crimes, the other 48% are committed by Hispanics and other minorities, and only 2% are by whites. Either they are just bigots, not too intelligent, in denial, extremely bad with math and logic, or all of the above. This is why America is ranked 13th and dropping in the world in education.
It's completely misleading, reveals the agenda, and shows the mindset and how bias someone is when they state that "13% of the population are committing 50% of the crimes." NO, lit's less that 1% of the population that is commenting 50% of the crimes. The first statement is misleading, and conveys the image that blacks as a race are criminals who commit 50% to people who aren't all that sophisticated up stairs..
WRONG. If you look at the entire 42 million population of blacks living in the US, 1% would mean only 420,000 blacks are committing crimes annually and according to this:
There were 2.7 million blacks arrested in 2011 ALONE. So unless you're telling me that 420,000 blacks were each arrested over 6 times a year, there's definitely MORE than 1% of black population committing crimes.
Also another thing to consider is that the overwhelming majority of crime is being committing by black males (and to a lesser degree young black women), so why would you include black children, older women and seniors in your assessment as to how much crime blacks commit when relatively speaking these segments of black population commit fairly low amounts of crime.
For the moment, just assume about 21 million blacks in the US are male. If say 70% are under the age of 60, that means that there's about 14.7 million black males that are within the group that commits the most amount of crime. So when you look at that 2.7 million arrests and the majority are coming from black males (and a portion coming from young black women) don't you see that black crime rate from this segment of population is PRETTY DAMN HIGH?
So if you don't dilute the statistics by including groups that commit little crime (seniors, older women and children) and look at only the groups that commit the most crime (black males, young women), how can you or anyone else possibly think that black crime is 'low' or is only committed by a few?
So you're going to disregard the fact much of the crime that blacks commit is violent and involves bodily harm? That's MUCH worse than being defrauded of money or something else that doesn't include being physically hurt. So with that in mind why wouldn't you give longer sentences for hurting or even killing people and especially if they're repeat offenders? Are these the kind of people you want on your streets?
WRONG. If you look at the entire 42 million population of blacks living in the US, 1% would mean only 420,000 blacks are committing crimes annually and according to this:
There were 2.7 million blacks arrested in 2011 ALONE. So unless you're telling me that 420,000 blacks were each arrested over 6 times a year, there's definitely MORE than 1% of black population committing crimes.
Also another thing to consider is that the overwhelming majority of crime is being committing by black males (and to a lesser degree young black women), so why would you include black children, older women and seniors in your assessment as to how much crime blacks commit when relatively speaking these segments of black population commit fairly low amounts of crime.
For the moment, just assume about 21 million blacks in the US are male. If say 70% are under the age of 60, that means that there's about 14.7 million black males that are within the group that commits the most amount of crime. So when you look at that 2.7 million arrests and the majority are coming from black males (and a portion coming from young black women) don't you see that black crime rate from this segment of population is PRETTY DAMN HIGH?
So if you don't dilute the statistics by including groups that commit little crime (seniors, older women and children) and look at only the groups that commit the most crime (black males, young women), how can you or anyone else possibly think that black crime is 'low' or is only committed by a few?
Reading comprehension is not your friend now is it? I didn't say it was 1%. I said "less than 1%" According to FBI statistics, it only approx. 2.7 million a year for all crimes vs 6.6 million a year for whites for all crimes. It's a fraction of a percent. Of those crimes (2.7 mil for blacks and 6.6 mil for whites), most of them are non violent misdemeanor crimes for both races.
To get technical, the stats aren't diluted at all; they are overstated. When you take out the less serious crimes like Gambling, Disorderly conduct, Liquor laws, etc, the number drops even lower for the number of crimes committed by blacks (approx to 1.2 million). Also, the FBI statistic counts each instance or charge as an arrest, so if 1 black man robbed, raped, and murdered someone, it would count as +3 arrest in the black column which would add +1 to each robbery, rape, and murder row in the table respectively. Next, if that same man made bail and committed another crime, each of those crimes would be counted as an arrest under the black column. Those stats do not reflect the number of individual black people that were arrest, so taking that and minor misdemeanor off of the table, the number of crimes committed by individual black people is way lower. This goes to what I've been saying that it's only a small amount of people in both races that commit most of the crime...
According to FBI Table 39 and Table 40, which isn't broken down by race but it still shows that your uneducated guess is incorrect. You can see from the table that children under 15 to seniors, the crime rate isn't that concentrated within any age group to a point that would warrant an exclusion.
You have not posted anything to prove that a majority of the almost 40 million black (not 20) people in this country are criminals, so sorry, it is not as "PRETTY DAMN HIGH" as you hoped.
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Where are you getting the statistics that show crime rate that is broken down by race, age, and sex all in one table which enables you to make such claims? I do not see a FBI crime rate statistics for black males only or for black male by age so I can exclude the children and seniors. Also, where are you getting the info on the black race demographic which breaks down how male black males, female, children, and seniors that there are in the US? Please post a links.
Last edited by DoniDanko; 09-17-2013 at 04:39 AM..
Reading comprehension is not your friend now is it? I didn't say it was 1%. I said "less than 1%" According to FBI statistics, it only approx. 2.7 million a year for all crimes vs 6.6 million a year for whites for all crimes. It's a fraction of a percent. Of those crimes (2.7 mil for blacks and 6.6 mil for whites), most of them are non violent misdemeanor crimes for both races.
To get technical, the stats aren't diluted at all; they are overstated. When you take out the less serious crimes like Gambling, Disorderly conduct, Liquor laws, etc, the number drops even lower for the number of crimes committed by blacks (approx to 1.2 million). Also, the FBI statistic counts each instance or charge as an arrest, so if 1 black man robbed, raped, and murdered someone, it would count as +3 arrest in the black column which would add +1 to each robbery, rape, and murder row in the table respectively. Next, if that same man made bail and committed another crime, each of those crimes would be counted as an arrest under the black column. Those stats does not reflect the number of individual black people that were arrest, so taking that and minor misdemeanor off of the table, the number of crimes committed by individual black people is way lower. This go to what I've been saying that it's only a small amount of people in both races that commit of of the crime...
According to FBI Table 39 and Table 40, which isn't broken down by race but it still shows that your uneducated guess is incorrect. You can see from the table that children under 15 to seniors, the crime rate isn't that contributed within any age group to a point that would warrant an exclusion.
You have not posted anything to prove that a majority of the almost 40 million black people in this country are criminals, so sorry, it is not as "PRETTY DAMN HIGH" as you hoped.
I NEVER said that the 'majority' of blacks are criminals. That's obviously not true. Saying the majority of blacks are criminals would mean that over 50% of 42 million blacks in the US are criminals whichs means ALL black males as well as a good portion of black females would have to be criminals and of course this is not possible.
What I AM saying is that we all know that black males is the demographic that commits the highest amounts of crime, so logically if there are 21 million black males in the US and you guess that maybe 15 million of them are over the age of 10 and under the age of 60, THAT'S the group that you should apply most crime statistics to. And if you do that, then its pretty damn obvious that black males, especially those that are 30 years old or younger cause far more crime and murder than anyone else and it ISN'T EVEN CLOSE.
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