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Old 08-27-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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Actually I answered that early on in this thread. The vouchers pay for ALL of their tuition. So saying they get an insufficient stipend is false and the original article says that. That's why I asked you to read it.

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All of their tuition for how long? The article most certainly does not address that. If you have kids in elementary school participating in this program, they may have another ten years' worth of tuition needing to be met.
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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It's about Unions and protection of a government monopoloy. That's the threat. Incompetent teachers and administrators fear competition and this adminstration will do anything to protect government union jobs.
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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Let students who want to learn have choices. Let public schools pick up the needy populations.
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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All of their tuition for how long? The article most certainly does not address that. If you have kids in elementary school participating in this program, they may have another ten years' worth of tuition needing to be met.
Fed dollars per kid per year K-12.
When a kid leaves the school with a voucher program the Fed dollars follow the kid.

When a school is deemed as failing the parents have a right to move their kids to another public school.
When they do the Fed money follows the kids to the school.
In the case of vouchers the Fed money follows to private/charter schools.

Its the stick approach to get the failing school back up to proficient. Punish them until they do better.
In the case of NOLA the schools were getting progressively worse and more kids were leaving the district.
It must have reached a critical point for the DOJ to step in after 5 years and say "No more".
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:16 PM
 
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All of their tuition for how long? The article most certainly does not address that. If you have kids in elementary school participating in this program, they may have another ten years' worth of tuition needing to be met.
Yes....none of that (the grade level of the kids ) is mentioned although it does say all their tuition is paid. So then, you admit you made a negative about something you actually know nothing about. Before you trash something based on certain grounds, be sure you know what you're talking about.

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Old 08-27-2013, 03:19 PM
 
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Fed dollars per kid per year K-12.
When a kid leaves the school with a voucher program the Fed dollars follow the kid.
And that's enough to cover tuition, transportation and related costs in shipping them to private schools?

What is the climate in Louisiana? Would taxpayers be willing to subsidize growing amounts of kids, particularly poor kids, to go to private schools?
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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And that's enough to cover tuition, transportation and related costs in shipping them to private schools?

What is the climate in Louisiana? Would taxpayers be willing to subsidize growing amounts of kids, particularly poor kids, to go to private schools?
The voucher program has been in place for 5 years and has been working.


And the more I read about NOLA public schools the more I back the voucher schools.

NOLA "lost" $17 million. And gave themselves pretty good salaries and raises with government grant money.
And they even tried to get the charters to move under the school board but several say they cannot afford to to that with their given budgets (they have caps on their salaries while school board doesn't).

Looks to me like more Fed money is wasted and outright lost with the current NOLA public school system.
I would say that the school board tried every which way to get the charters into their fold and turned to the DOJ when they wouldn't budge.

This article is from last year:
Money, control and perception are keys as charters consider switch to Orleans Parish School Board | The Lens
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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And that's enough to cover tuition, transportation and related costs in shipping them to private schools?

What is the climate in Louisiana? Would taxpayers be willing to subsidize growing amounts of kids, particularly poor kids, to go to private schools?
IL does it. You get a tax credit if you send your kids to private school. It's not the same, I know, but it's a move in the same direction.
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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IL does it. You get a tax credit if you send your kids to private school. It's not the same, I know, but it's a move in the same direction.
Last time I checked, the stipends here were entirely insufficient.

Public support will wane if more and more poor families take advantage of this, primarily from the folks on here, incessantly complaining about the poor stealing money from their pockets.
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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And that's enough to cover tuition, transportation and related costs in shipping them to private schools?

What is the climate in Louisiana? Would taxpayers be willing to subsidize growing amounts of kids, particularly poor kids, to go to private schools?
I don't know what it's like in Louisiana, but I'd bet that people pay school taxes (even those without kids). Therefore, your piece of your school taxes plus federal funds.

Private schools do more with less. I don't even see why government is in the schooling business anymore.



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