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Old 08-29-2013, 08:09 PM
 
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The retail and food services sectors are the largest U.S. employers, after government.

Walmart and Mc Donalds are the two largest employers. Unlike Walmart, most Mc Donalds are franchises. Mc Donalds Corp does not determine compensation at the retail franchise level.
Neither does Walmart.

Neither do ANY businesses.

At least not for common menial labor.

 
Old 08-29-2013, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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The same struggle low wage people have is going on with the middle class. Wages are stagnate, and the only people gaining wealth are the super wealthy. Corporations and the extremely rich are sitting on trillions of dollars. While the low and middle class are struggling and depending on the government to subsize incomes, those that are holding the money only get more money. So the question is, what is the best means of getting that money back into the economy so that the low and middle class begin to have opportunities to achieve the means to better their lives. Either the government (via taxpayers) or those with money will have to be the one to open up and give out the money through investments, hiring more workers or increasing wages.
 
Old 08-29-2013, 08:11 PM
 
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More power to these people. Heartening, very heartening.
 
Old 08-29-2013, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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SO if not enough Americans are willing to work at these establishments for $7/hour in order to find help the establishments will have to raise their wage.

They will always need workers it is just a matter of enough workers willing to work for that wage or not.
Back in the early 90's I spent 2 weeks in Boston on business. I was stunned at the Help Wanted storefront signage offering $10/hr and a sign on bonus in most fast food places. At the time, in Boston, there was a shortage of unskilled/no skill workers and business had to compete for anyone with a pulse.

20 years later and I suspect most fast food workers in Boston start at minimum state wage, $8/hr. There's more people than jobs available.
 
Old 08-29-2013, 08:13 PM
 
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The same struggle low wage people have is going on with the middle class. Wages are stagnate, and the only people gaining wealth are the super wealthy. Corporations and the extremely rich are sitting on trillions of dollars. While the low and middle class are struggling and depending on the government to subsize incomes, those that are holding the money only get more money. So the question is, what is the best means of getting that money back into the economy so that the low and middle class begin to have opportunities to achieve the means to better their lives. Either the government (via taxpayers) or those with money will have to be the one to open up and give out the money through investments, hiring more workers or increasing wages.
$800 BILLION didn't create jobs.

Proof that government doesn't create jobs.
 
Old 08-29-2013, 08:14 PM
 
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The uber wealthy want everyone in the world to have the same (low) standard of living. Think Bill Gates, Al Gore, .....

The American people are going to have to wrest control of the political system from the billionaires, as are Europeans and Asians.

But no one is yet motivated enough to organize and try.
 
Old 08-29-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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OK, what should they get paid for the services they preform? Mim wage? Depends what part of the country they work in? Demand ? Or as little as the fast food/ service company can get away with .?
If they're being undervalued, if they're actually worth more than what they're being paid now, don't you think they'd quit FF and move to those jobs? It appears they're working voluntarily at the rate the FF places are voluntarily paying them. I encourage every single FF worker who went on one-day strike today to quit their jobs and seek out that $15/hour job on their own, right now. Go!
 
Old 08-29-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Here
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The uber wealthy want everyone in the world to have the same (low) standard of living. Think Bill Gates, Al Gore, .....

The American people are going to have to wrest control of the political system from the billionaires, as are Europeans and Asians.

But no one is yet motivated enough to organize and try.
Quick, grab your tent, round up your fellow Occupy Wall Street dorks and get out and start "protesting" again.

Don't forget you iPhones
 
Old 08-29-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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OK, what should they get paid for the services they preform? Mim wage? Depends what part of the country they work in? Demand ? Or as little as the fast food/ service company can get away with .?
Do you really need a lesson in economics or are you just trolling? I'll assume that you don't understand how hiring works. Here's a quick synopsis.

Employer (whose goal is to make as much profit as possible) has jobs available which are perfect for unskilled, inexperienced people. Employer receives 50 applications for each position (I'm being conservative with that number). Employer (whose goal is to make as much profit as possible) offers the lowest possible amount that will be accepted by unskilled, inexperienced people (because the employer's goal is to make as much profit as possible). Employees who are unskilled and inexperienced accept this wage, because they realize that they won't be keeping this job for long. After getting some experience and very basic skills, employees move on to better paying jobs. Rinse and repeat.

In short, what they should get paid is the lowest amount that the employer is able to get away with paying. These are menial jobs which take little to no training and which were never meant to be "living wage" jobs (whatever the hell those are).
 
Old 08-29-2013, 08:18 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
The retail and food services sectors are the largest U.S. employers, after government.

Walmart and Mc Donalds are the two largest employers. Unlike Walmart, most Mc Donalds are franchises. Mc Donalds Corp does not determine compensation at the retail franchise level.
Depends on what the city/ county has as a minim wage requirement.
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