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If the Govt. violates the Constitution than the process would require the judicial branch to rule, and that ruling would decide if the govt violated or not. If violated than the US Govt would take actions (repeal, etc).
The US Govt polices itself, your only say is by vote - not by gun. Use a gun, your going to jail.
That is correct, however other Republics have turned into Tyrannies before. When that does, I'll cite you the Declaration of Independence:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
You mean Socialism is our future? Do you even know old that throw-back is?
It is. It's not coincidence that socialism began around the Industrial Revolution when Capitalism was producing historical inequality and working conditions were abysmal.
You rubes can't figure out that socialism is just a response to be negative consequences of capitalism. Socialism will only grow as our labor market continues to adapts to a globalized, automated economy.
That is correct, however other Republics have turned into Tyrannies before. When that does, I'll cite you the Declaration of Independence:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
It's certainly possible. However, this country has faced many obstacles and no tyrant has emerged yet in our history. I think you underestimate the strength of this country's ability to govern democratically.
That is correct, however other Republics have turned into Tyrannies before. When that does, I'll cite you the Declaration of Independence:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Chris is right.
What you quoted was doable in 1776. It sure as hell isn't today or will be in the future unless we annihilate ourselves and start over as cave men.
Those who focus on guns as freedom protectors are living a delusion and should be using their time and energy to build political consensus.
They just don't want to understand how things have changed. It is more favorable for them to believe the government is afraid of an armed citizenry.
I've beaten this to death, but if the government wants to kill you badly, you won't stop them. A drone could fire a missile at your house from a mile away, and you would never know what happened. A tank could turn you into a crater from 2.5 miles away.
What you quoted was doable in 1776. It sure as hell isn't today or will be in the future unless we annihilate ourselves and start over as cave men.
Those who focus on guns as freedom protectors are living a delusion and should be using their time and energy to build political consensus.
If guns don't scare the ever living crap out of governments then what's the point of banning them?
You and your cohorts don't seem to understand how completely uncontrollable an armed citizenry is if it came down to the government versus the people. The government wouldnt use nuclear weapons and the weapons they would use are effective but not if you have no clue where and what your suppose to be going after. Indiscriminate bombing didn't work in Afghanistan and it sure as he'll wouldn't work in the US for the exact same reasons. Every citizen you kill that wasn't an armed rebel only enrages the public even more. Since the government wouldn't know exactly who was armed and a rebel that only leaves them to indiscriminately bomb people to their own demise.
If guns don't scare the ever living crap out of governments then what's the point of banning them?
You and your cohorts don't seem to understand how completely uncontrollable an armed citizenry is if it came down to the government versus the people. The government wouldnt use nuclear weapons and the weapons they would use are effective but not if you have no clue where and what your suppose to be going after. Indiscriminate bombing didn't work in Afghanistan and it sure as he'll wouldn't work in the US for the exact same reasons. Every citizen you kill that wasn't an armed rebel only enrages the public even more. Since the government wouldn't know exactly who was armed and a rebel that only leaves them to indiscriminately bomb people to their own demise.
Well, if they did that, then it would be the rebellion's demise. The point of banning guns is to protect other citizen's safety. Adam Lanza could not have killed (as many) innocent children with a knife.
But if the government really, really wanted to crush the people... One bomber squadron could level New York.
Well, if they did that, then it would be the rebellion's demise. The point of banning guns is to protect other citizen's safety. Adam Lanza could not have killed (as many) innocent children with a knife.
But if the government really, really wanted to crush the people... One bomber squadron could level New York.
And what would be the point? I don't know if you understand this but the government exist because of taxes. Why would the government slit its own throat?
Imagine that...
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