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Old 09-14-2013, 08:59 AM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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The report of which you speak was written in response to another chemical weapons attack, NOT THIS MOST RECENT ONE! It tells much that you are critical of the UN now that word has leaked out about the UN report and Ban Ki Moon comments yesterday that Assad has committed many crimes against humanity. Your country supports a war criminal, a monster. Your country supports them all over the world. Lenin and Stalin showed the world that Russians have no conscience, so this comes as no surprise.
Lenin was a spy, it's proven and it has created a revolution. We won the second World War and was released throughout Europe and then we have no conscience? U.S. funded 1 and 2 world war on two fronts, thus got out of the debt trap and got a lot of profit, and then you say that we have no conscience? When she was with you? All of aggression that were created during the Cold War came from the United States.Who created the terrorism? Who destroyed your constitution after September 11? Who is killing innocent people and robbing the country and turned into ruins? We can talk to from this historic event, if you know the story.United States always looking for enemies to provoke and create their own. So do not say you do not know. History confirms this.USA Today has the best offensive weapon. Russia best weapon of defense. it just speaks for itself.

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Old 09-14-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Lenin was a spy, it's proven and it has created a revolution. We won the second World War and was released throughout Europe and then we have no conscience? U.S. funded 1 and 2 world war on two fronts, thus got out of the debt trap and got a lot of profit, and then you say that we have no conscience? When she was with you? All of aggression that were created during the Cold War came from the United States.Who created the terrorism? Who destroyed your constitution after September 11? Who is killing innocent people and robbing the country and turned into ruins? We can talk to from this historic event, if you know the story.United States always looking for enemies to provoke and create their own. So do not say you do not know. History confirms this.USA Today has the best offensive weapon. Russia best weapon of defense. it just speaks for itself.
Now tell us about the Chechan Genocide. How many has your Putin murdered? 200,000? 300,000? More? The Boston bombing was inspired by atrocities committed by Russians! Wrestles bears, my ass. The man murders children and supports a tyrant who would gas his own people. Russia persecutes Jews and gays even today. Russia has been a brutal nation and a curse on humanity for nearly 100 years now. Not much has changed except that the former communists have now become greedy tycoons and gangsters and the country has turned into a wasteland of corruption. Russia is the last country on earth that should be lecturing the US.
 
Old 09-14-2013, 10:00 AM
 
Location: USA
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There has to be something in it for the MIC though.
 
Old 09-14-2013, 10:02 AM
 
Location: USA
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Now tell us about the Chechan Genocide. How many has your Putin murdered? 200,000? 300,000? More? The Boston bombing was inspired by atrocities committed by Russians! Wrestles bears, my ass. The man murders children and supports a tyrant who would gas his own people. Russia persecutes Jews and gays even today. Russia has been a brutal nation and a curse on humanity for nearly 100 years now. Not much has changed except that the former communists have now become greedy tycoons and gangsters and the country has turned into a wasteland of corruption. Russia is the last country on earth that should be lecturing the US.

Neither the US or Russia is innocent by any means. How many innocents have died, democratically elected leaders overthrown, by wars started but the US. We like to see ourselves as "the shining light of the free world" but it's totally otherwise.
 
Old 09-14-2013, 10:08 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It's sounds like the Russians have agreed to a lot of what the USA wanted - we will see.
The devil will be in the details AND in the UN Resolution.
The devil is truly in the UN's utter failure to act here and in so many other situations. It's time we build a new park on the east side of NYC.
 
Old 09-14-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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They still said they would veto any resolution against military action. So its an agreement without teeth, kind of like no strike unions.


Of course we could still go at that alone, but it would mean a unilateral attack by these united states.

I am also concerned about the safety of inspectors in a war zone.

We will see. I remain hopefully pessimistic
 
Old 09-14-2013, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Threatening a war and agreeing to a deal that can't be enforced = wisdom
Are you sure you don't want to wait for your afternoon email from the RNC or Rove telling you what you think about the agreement, before spouting off?
 
Old 09-14-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The devil is truly in the UN's utter failure to act here and in so many other situations. It's time we build a new park on the east side of NYC.
Ban Ki Moon said as much yesterday.
 
Old 09-14-2013, 10:23 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Ban Ki Moon said as much yesterday.
I really don't understand why we continue to support the ineffective social club the UN has become.
 
Old 09-14-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I really don't understand why we continue to support the ineffective social club the UN has become.
Same reason we support the US Congress I guess. Both institutions are plagued by the same issues of uncompromising self interest.
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