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Old 09-16-2013, 04:01 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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It is all about whether the culture promotes personal responsibility for yourself or community responsibility to take care of you.
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Old 09-16-2013, 04:09 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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It is all about whether the culture promotes personal responsibility for yourself or community responsibility to take care of you.
Unless I misunderstood your post, it makes no sense. The community, or social system if you will, is stronger in the north, which according to your logic would make people in the south more personally responsible. Maybe they even are, but it does not show in economic terms.

I guess the strong Euro is another problem, that has been keeping the south down. But the north does not like to hear that as it would imply changing a monetary system that works well for the north.
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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The first half of your name is truly a serendipitous choice.

Your argument is truly beyond absurd.

The difference is culture, and that difference is the value of and belief in WORK as the means to prosper.
You don't think Catholicism has its own culture ?
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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Those Asians certainly have a hellacious work ethic. Who'd uh thunk they were Protestants.
Either

(A) Elementary logic seems to escape you

or

(B) You think Asia is in Europe.
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:22 AM
 
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I think it's not about religion, not at all. And catholics are very prosperous too, maybe it depends on the country, but catholics are much wealthier than protestants here.
Your location says you live in Brazil


And yet the question is about Europe ...


But if you want to ignore the geographic component of the topic, we can do that. Look at large new world catholic countries (Brazil, Mexico), and compare their productivity and wealth to large new world protestant countries. (USA and Canada)

PPP per capita
United States - $49,922
Canada - $42,734
Mexico - $15,312
Brazil - $11,875
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Look at large new world catholic countries (Brazil, Mexico), and compare their productivity and wealth to large new world protestant countries. (USA and Canada)

PPP per capita
United States - $49,922
Canada - $42,734
Mexico - $15,312
Brazil - $11,875
This game can be played endlessly... Compare Catholic Austria and Protestant Estonia. Compare Catholic Luxembourg to basically every other country in the world.

As someone mentioned before: There are so many exceptions that there is no rule left.
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I think it's not about religion, not at all. And catholics are very prosperous too, maybe it depends on the country, but catholics are much wealthier than protestants here. It's more about culture, politics, i'm not sure...
Protestanism in Brazil is a recent phenomonen and frankly not germane to the topic of this thread. Also my understanding is that the rise in Protestanism in Brazil is due to Pentacostal sects which are not mainline.
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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This game can be played endlessly... Compare Catholic Austria and Protestant Estonia. Compare Catholic Luxembourg to basically every other country in the world.

As someone mentioned before: There are so many exceptions that there is no rule left.
Well you are not comparing like to like. Slavic countries are poorer than Germanic countries. A better comparison would be to compare Austria to say the UK or the Netherlands and not just focus on a narrow period of time. Austria which was the center of a vast empire that dwarfed in size the UK never matched the UK in per capita wealth, influence or power. Austria is a nice little country now but it was comparitivy backwards compared to the UK.
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:44 AM
 
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This game can be played endlessly... Compare Catholic Austria and Protestant Estonia.
LOL why would you bother? it's Estonia. they aren't "protestant" in the first place, 71% of people claim to have no religion. Among their religious, there are as many people who claim eastern orthodox as protestant.


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Compare Catholic Luxembourg to basically every other country in the world.
If a country as small as Luxembourg is your counterpoint, then I consider myself to have won the argument.
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Old 09-16-2013, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Well you are not comparing like to like.
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LOL why would you bother?

If a country as small as Luxembourg is your counterpoint, then I consider myself to have won the argument.
Well, le roi just compared Mexico to the United States. That's probably as ridiculous as my glorious comparisons.
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