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Great post! Seems pretty unlikely to me too. At the very least, these people would sell individual bottle drinks at a hot venue somewhere to bring in some added cash. But to go through the trouble of buying, carrying, dumping out, and recycling............ for a $1.20 !
Someone has been hoodwinking someone with this story.
It's actually very common in areas with high food stamp rates. (and bottle and can deposits)
My assistant was on lunch and he happened to see our cart out there. He didn't know what they were doing, so he called me and I went out there and asked them ‘Why are you dumping pop?’ Turner recalled. “[They replied], ‘Because we need to bring them back in for the 10 cents.’”
Turner called police, but an employee from the nearby Laundry Village had already alerted officers there was suspicious activity behind the supermarket.
Michigan law allows people to exchange aluminum cans for cash at some stores. The teen admitted to Neubecker he was attempting to get money for the 72 cans in his cart. The boy’s mom told police she gave her son the card to buy soda and a bag of chips and was unaware he would use it to buy cases of pop instead.
local man seen Monday dumping bottled water he had purchased with a food stamp card in order to cash in the returnables violated federal regulations and was issued a warning by police....
The Bangor Daily News put a spotlight on water dumping in August 2010 after a pair of men purchased $86.79 in bottled water from Shaw’s, dumped it out behind the store and returned the empties for $24.
Store employees at the time described the practice of water dumping as common, an observation shared by police.
Okay. Thanks for the link. That might be SNAP fraud on a very small scale.
Through your link, I also found that the major SNAP fraud is by retailers!
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The federal government takes action against those who misuse the program.
In FY 2012, over 100 analysts and investigators reviewed over 15,000 stores and conducted nearly 4,500 undercover investigations.
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Close to 1,400 stores were permanently disqualified for trafficking and nearly 700 stores were sanctioned for other violations such as the sale of ineligible items.
FNS also works with State law enforcement authorities to provide them with SNAP benefits that are used in sting operations, supporting anti-trafficking actions at the local level.
Great post! Seems pretty unlikely to me too. At the very least, these people would sell individual bottle drinks at a hot venue somewhere to bring in some added cash. But to go through the trouble of buying, carrying, dumping out, and recycling............ for a $1.20 !
Someone has been hoodwinking someone with this story.
The relevance is that most "charities" are really proselytization rings!
Most charities are non-religious and the one in your story wasn't forcing people to choose between food and religion - the government was forcing the charity to choose.
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“The (person) told us there was a slight change in the contract,” Daly told me. “They said we could no longer have religious information where the USDA food is being distributed. They told us we had to take that stuff down.”
Daly and her staff sat in stunned disbelief as the government agents also informed them that the Christian Service Center could no longer pray or provide Bibles to those in need. The government contract also forbade any references to the ministry’s chapel.
“We asked if we had to change the name of the organization but that said we could leave that,” Daly said. “But we had to take our religious stuff down.” Daly said they were told they could continue distributing USDA food so long as it was somewhere else on the property – away from anything that could be considered religious.
In other words – the Christian Service Center had a choice: choose God or the government cheese.
Hmmm, let's see:
24 in a case x 5 cents per return = $1.20
Cigs here cost between $5 and $6.
At least 6 cases need to be dumped... add in another for taxes.
I have never - not even one time - seen someone buy caseloads of anything and stand outside the store and dump them.
Most of us bring the cases home, drink said products and bring returns back and buy paper products.
I don't drink soda anymore, but there was a time when I drank lots of it just so I could have those nickels adding up. We still needed toilet paper and soaps.
I already explained cigs... I don't drink beer, so have no clue on price.
I really can't see someone spending close to $5.00 or more (with foodstamps) on soda or water just to dump these products for the lousy $1.20. The $1.20 return charge is added onto the purchase price, so that would bring a cheap case up to over $6.
If one dumps 6 cases for a pack of smokes, then probably double that for booze. That is an amazing way to waste $72 of precious food money.
I'm not saying it is never done, I'm just saying I have never seen it, and I personally know a lot of people on foodstamps.
The economy won't improve over the next decade for lower-skilled workers, who disproportionately use food stamps.
Why should the economy improve for poorly educated people who don't even try to learn? Learning is something is something you have to do yourself. We have got more than enough resources in some cases over an order of magnitude more than schools in much of Latin America, Phillipines or subsaharan Africa and schools with nothiong more than a old fashioned black board and benches and chairs can produce thousands of students who get a good secondary education, take the needed exams to go to university. and then do so in Britain,Canada or the USA. Marion Barry (A DC political wonder) complained when he went in for his kidney transplant that he couldn't understand why all of his nurses and technicians in the main hospital in your nations capital were Filipino or Latino rather than Black Americans. Marion 's question is worth answering even if he came to the wrong answer. It took tremdous effort to get from Metro Manilla or a village in Honduras to a qualified RN working in an ICU caring for transplant patients.Now a person growing up in Marion's 9th Ward which has youth unenployment of 60% and adult unemployment of 40% is no more disadvantaged than the average Filipino in Manilla so the climb to be able to compete for a good paying job at Washington Hospital Center is not impossible but it isn't handed on a silver platter!
Surely it would not have been difficult for Fox to find a realistic face of food stamp recipients, as 76% of SNAP households include a child, elderly person, or disabled American. This dishonest depiction of SNAP is the latest example of Fox's longstanding tradition of maligning the poor.
Why should the economy improve for poorly educated people who don't even try to learn? Learning is something is something you have to do yourself. We have got more than enough resources in some cases over an order of magnitude more than schools in much of Latin America, Phillipines or subsaharan Africa and schools with nothiong more than a old fashioned black board and benches and chairs can produce thousands of students who get a good secondary education, take the needed exams to go to university. and then do so in Britain,Canada or the USA. Marion Barry (A DC political wonder) complained when he went in for his kidney transplant that he couldn't understand why all of his nurses and technicians in the main hospital in your nations capital were Filipino or Latino rather than Black Americans. Marion 's question is worth answering even if he came to the wrong answer. It took tremdous effort to get from Metro Manilla or a village in Honduras to a qualified RN working in an ICU caring for transplant patients.Now a person growing up in Marion's 9th Ward which has youth unenployment of 60% and adult unemployment of 40% is no more disadvantaged than the average Filipino in Manilla so the climb to be able to compete for a good paying job at Washington Hospital Center is not impossible but it isn't handed on a silver platter!
Because conservatives believe a rising tide lifts all boats?
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