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Seems to me that the parties have decided that the only way to win is to screw the other side. Or if they lose, they want to relitigate the same case 100 times. No one seems eager to make the best of the current situation and move forward. Taking health care as an example, why the hell not work together to improve the ACA? People may not be delighted with it, but they want it or something like it in principle, and helping to refine it seems far more productive than trying to repeal it. It seems to me that the drive to repeal ACA is simply a way to stick it to Obama, not to serve Americans.
More generally, how about doing something positive that would help the country, like end the war, help the Syrians, lower crime, pollution, etc.,etc. There is a lot to be done, but it seems like our politicians lack a drive to do good work. Although all politicians fight like wolverines during reelection, there has to be substantial periods of governance in between the fights. That is what we are not seeing these days.
What makes you think people want something like the ACA? Nobody asked for it; it was rammed down our throats, without any debate. Not even those who forced it on us knew what was in it.
"We must pass this bill; then we will find out what's in it." — Nancy Pelosi
Why should we accept a bad piece of legislation and work with Democrats (who are the ones who did this to us) to "improve it?"
This is a bill that never should have seen the light of day. Forgetting that it is ill conceived and totally unworkable, it was originated in the Senate using legislative trickery, abuse of a provision that allows the Senate to amend spending bills that have originated in the house. It violates the Constitution, especially in regards to your rights to privacy and your right to make decisions between you and your doctor as to what treatments are best for you; decisions that may even be a factor in how long you live.
It violates the Constitution in that it mandates that you spend money to buy a product that you may not want, or need. It places disinterested third party bureaucrats betwen you and your doctor, who will have the final say in your care. And, these bureaucrats will want to know everything about your life style; what you do, what you eat and how much, and they will have the power to control those things in your life, and perhaps even to enter your home for an official inspection of your living conditions.
The ACA was the brainchild of liberals, for the purpose of gaining control over the behavior of others, and to implement an agenda to "transform" the United States into a progressive (Marxist) utopian society which, in their view, is superior to free market capitalism.
We should not, under any circumstances, accept this bill, and work with Democrats to "improve it." It should be repealed, and sent to the trash heap of bad legislation. Period!
What makes you think people want something like the ACA? Nobody asked for it; it was rammed down our throats, without any debate. Not even those who forced it on us knew what was in it.
Perhaps you should turn the TV off and go outside once in awhile.
People want reform, both doctors and patients.
ACA is far from perfect. But I guess that is what you get when half the politicians are being childish, stamping their feet, and crying because they don't get things exactly their way instead of actually being bi-partisan and creating a bill that works. The GOP is more to blame for the current ACA mess than Democrats, because they've done absolutely nothing.
Perhaps you should turn the TV off and go outside once in awhile.
People want reform, both doctors and patients.
ACA is far from perfect. But I guess that is what you get when half the politicians are being childish, stamping their feet, and crying because they don't get things exactly their way instead of actually being bi-partisan and creating a bill that works. The GOP is more to blame for the current ACA mess than Democrats, because they've done absolutely nothing.
That is what you get when a very partisan bill is rushed through. Somehow they managed to pass this fiasco but couldn't manage to pass a budget. What we have is a 2 party monopoly and both sides are doing their best to only represent their party and not the people.
The Dems are to blame for the ACA mess because they are the ones who not only wrote it but forced it upon we the people even tho they knew the majority was against it.
The OP is over looking the fact that the majority of Americans including many who once supported the ACA are against it. The Reps who are voting against funding the ACA are in fact honoring the wishes of the majority. It is a bad law and it was before they forced it upon this nation.
Although I am against ACA with all the uproar, infantile fighting and overall lack of accomplishments, I feel the Reps are not doing the American people a favor by refusing to pass a budget or end sequester without including defunding ACA. IMO if they would let it go, pass the budget, end the sequester and let ACA take effect, ACA will die it's own death and there will be an uproar from everyone to end it when they realize the actual effects it has. And maybe, just maybe, the Reps will then again some respect back.
Once enacted the ACA will never die it's own death, that's wishful thinking. Sad but true.
The worst part is that many Americans believe that ACA is free healthcare for everyone...THAT is what too many believe, yet
local media and such have FAILED to report to the most common person what ACA is really all about. Another failing, but one
that was designed by the Media giants who support this BS..
Uniformed people will vote for whatever looks good on the surface (and uniformed is half the population if not more) and it's
a sad state of affairs in this country..
Although I am against ACA with all the uproar, infantile fighting and overall lack of accomplishments, I feel the Reps are not doing the American people a favor by refusing to pass a budget or end sequester without including defunding ACA. IMO if they would let it go, pass the budget, end the sequester and let ACA take effect, ACA will die it's own death and there will be an uproar from everyone to end it when they realize the actual effects it has. And maybe, just maybe, the Reps will then again some respect back.
At what cost? I remember an Army project that went billions over budget because no one wanted to pull the plug. An armored personnel carrier as I recall. Better to kill bad legislation than to let it bleed you dry.
We need something but the ACA isn't it.
Let me ask this. If you bought a car and it's a lemon do you keep it until finally it rusts apart? Chalk it up to lesson learned?
Both party's have demonstrated a complete lack of concern for the needs of the nation. When this law was passed the Dems were positively giddy with excitement how they rammed it through even though most americans were as they are now against it.
The GOP refuses to come up with a workable solution and so we have the mess we are in now.
The Dems cry the GOP won't come up with a budget. NO they won't come up with a budget the Dems will agree to.
The dems had a super majority. Why didn't they focus on a balanced budget when they had the power. I mean they passed the ACA without getting a sing GOP vote. It's too late for them to say it is one sided.
Only the hardliners can point fingers at the other party and not see the total BS in what they regurgitate.
Big business complains about how they are not prepared to implement Obamacare and despite it being against the law Obama delays it's implementation for big business.
People on main street complains that they do not understand all of this (which is completely understandable, nobody understands it) and wants the implementation legally delayed. Obama says no.
Principled liberals aren't really much of a fan right now either. Without them speaking up Obama would have ignore the libertarians on Syria.
I agree but the poster I responded too used Libertarians as if they support Obama which most do not.
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