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What does their personal faith have to do with the law or anything else though... Just because their personal beliefs may have had some influence on them does not mean that they wanted their beliefs imposed on everyone else...
Um so what if he did? What's wrong with the statement other than you're offended because you're intolerant of other religions which is the exact reason why we need a separation of church and state?
What does their personal faith have to do with the law or anything else though... Just because their personal beliefs may have had some influence on them does not mean that they wanted their beliefs imposed on everyone else...
Especially considering how many people came to the Americas to escape religious persecution.
Especially considering how many people came to the Americas to escape religious persecution.
Yea.. I just do not understand the drive behind Christians wanting and needing to impose and constantly wanting to shove their beliefs in the face of other's who aren't Christian... You do not see Atheist, Muslims, Jews, Buddhist, Scientologist, or any other religion trying to force there views on others via the government like Christians do... If they're this bad now, God help all of us if we allowed them to take over the government.
The religious persecution that drove settlers from Europe to the British North American colonies sprang from the conviction, held by Protestants and Catholics alike, that uniformity of religion must exist in any given society. This conviction rested on the belief that there was one true religion and that it was the duty of the civil authorities to impose it, forcibly if necessary, in the interest of saving the souls of all citizens. Nonconformists could expect no mercy and might be executed as heretics. The dominance of the concept, denounced by Roger Williams as "inforced uniformity of religion," meant majority religious groups who controlled political power punished dissenters in their midst. In some areas Catholics persecuted Protestants, in others Protestants persecuted Catholics, and in still others Catholics and Protestants persecuted wayward coreligionists.
There are a number of possible consequences, all of them bad:
Religious indoctrination, starting with creationism and going all the way to mandatory religion classes (Christianity only) would be permitted in the public schools, and schools could even impose a belief in Christianity as a condition of graduation.
Already have "religious indoctrination." Atheism is one, and now we read Ismamic indoctrination (kids being required to memorize the "Pillars of Islam" in at least one school, which is being sued over it.
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Originally Posted by jackmccullough
The national, state, or local governments could impose religious tests on office holders, allowing only Christians to hold elective office, or even government employment.
Tax dollars could go directly to support Christian churches, paying the salaries of their ministers, the maintenance of their buildings, and so forth.
Governments could explicitly base their laws on Christian doctrine.
State and local governments, and even the national government, could establish standards for marriage, divorce, child custody, and other domestic arrangements on Christian doctrine.
Members of Christian churches could impose restrictions on behavior, such as dress codes for women, in areas where the members of those churches are likely to take offense.
Standards for citizenship and government benefits could be tied to adherence to the tenets of Christianity.
Funding and other government benefits could be denied to organizations and enterprises that do not follow the dictates of Christianity.
I'm not saying that any of these would happen,, but they are all prohibited now by the constitutional protection of freedom of religion. Once you throw that out and establish an official place for Christianity or any religion the door is open for terrible consequences.
Since I view threads like this as "casting bate," I'm not going to comment further.
No, he was trying to argue American Christians today are the tyrants. I agree the roman catholic church behaved like a tyrant back I the day in Europe, but that is not what we were talking about here.
No, he was trying to argue American Christians today are the tyrants. I agree the roman catholic church behaved like a tyrant back I the day in Europe, but that is not what we were talking about here.
I personally have worked my butt off to save the life of a young woman who was bleeding to death because her 20 week pregnancy was complicated by part of the placenta coming off from the uterine wall.
The Catholic hospital, where she was treated initially, refused to terminate the pregnancy (which was the only way to save the mothers life!) because there was still a fetal heartbeat.
Luckily, her husband worked quickly to have his wife transferred to a medical center that did not dictate medicine based on religious tyranny.
How is this for an example of modern day American, Christian tyranny?
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