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Old 10-02-2013, 07:33 PM
 
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It's a US issue. In the UK it's more about the wider British community versus radical Islam and Muslims' place in British society
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Britain was a more homogeneous country until recently, while the US began as a migrant society, so the dynamics are totally different. It's hard to compare, but there certainly is racism in Britain.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:44 PM
 
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Britain was a more homogeneous country until recently, while the US began as a migrant society, so the dynamics are totally different. It's hard to compare, but there certainly is racism in Britain.
There is racism everywhere you go from Alaska to New Zealand's South Island. There's always going to be somebody that doesn't like the color of your hair or skin or facial features.

There is racism in the UK, like I said above, but most of the hate is directed towards Muslims irrespective of their ethnicity but mostly towards those from Pakistan, who form the majority of the Muslim community there
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Old 10-03-2013, 03:07 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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cant talk for other countries , but Britain pales in comparison to the US with racist hatred..
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:51 AM
 
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It is more of the US issue than that of the UK issue.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:38 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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cant talk for other countries , but Britain pales in comparison to the US with racist hatred..
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It is more of the US issue than that of the UK issue.
Have you lived in the United States for any length of time? Have you lived in the various regions of the US for a point of comparison (its hard to stereotype the West Coast with the South East or Industrial Midwest). Its a large country with over 300 million people. If you were familiar with the US I think you would find race relations on a day to day basis quite good. A few inflammatory cases on the news do not represent the hundreds of millions of people going about their daily lives with friends and family of all races, ethnicities and creeds. Its a lot more heterogeneous and accepting that foreign media might like to paint it.

I will say this about my nine months working in London in the 1990s. I was at a friends house having dinner (she lived with her parents). Her teenage brother came in the room and his arm was in a cast. After he left I asked what happened to his arm. My friend's mother leaned over to me and said quietly "A couple of N-words in a park stole his bike and broke his arm". I was shocked. I was expecting a person I had just met to use such language - although I could understand her being upset at her child being mugged.

I was also at a Midland bank branch in the neighborhood I was staying in and an extremely rude (bordering on hostile) bank clerk of West Indian background read me the riot act for not following some esoteric procedure when cashing US issued cheques. After I finished and was walking out both an older lady and a guy my age in the queue told me "Don't worry about her - she just hates white people". Again, I was a bit shocked to hear something like that (and just smiled at them and kept walking out the door).

Basically, I think its safe to say that in place that isn't homogenous you're going to have some racial/ethnic friction. I don't think the UK is immune.
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:33 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Lets say Ive never in my life saw a black having to travel in another part of a bus or train.. or sit in a cinema in their own section.. barbaric...
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:46 AM
 
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In our past there were slaves of all colours.. whites included.. what we didnt do here was have segregation.. how could an American government ever have allowed this to happen..

You're in Scotland, where there never were very many black people. How many? Two or three? The UK never had to confront or contend with race issues like the US simply because 15 million black people never lived within Britain's borders.
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:57 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Blacks are American too or have you forgotten that, and what have you read about Scotland ,we have many blacks here where I live in Glasgow.. only this morning I saw three pass my window..and what is race issues you refer to... you mean the issues started by white American... yes I agree a disgrace..The first time this was noticed by Americans in Glasgow was when my mother went to dancehalls where the US navy visited.. she said the treatment of the black sailors by the white Americans was awful and they were made to stand in a separate corner... I saw this for myself in the late 60s with the US navy also here in Glasgow... things we had never seen before...

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Old 10-04-2013, 04:28 AM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Lets say Ive never in my life saw a black having to travel in another part of a bus or train.. or sit in a cinema in their own section.. barbaric...
Neither have I and neither have most Americans. This is something we have HEARD about just as you have HEARD about it. It happened in a certain part of the country that was very backward at the time. People from other parts of the country went down to that area by the busload to try to stop it.

This country is enormous and we who live in one area are not responsible for crazies who live in some other state one thousand miles away WITH ITS OWN LAWS. It's the same with guns--it's different everywhere you go and it's the states that make their own laws. States have power here, whether they should or not.
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