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The ACA (Obamacare) goes into effect Jan 1, 2014.... about 2 and a half months from now. At that time, adults and children that have health insurance purchased through the exchanges can start using it.
Prior to that time, uninsured people have just shown up at the Emergency Rooms in hospitals for treatment of illness or injuries, etc. We have been paying for that in the higher costs that these places charge. It's passed along.
My question is primarily for those that are against Obamacare. Do you think that uninsured people should also be turned away from Emergency Rooms since we have to pay for their care?
There used to be Charity Hospitals that took charity cases.
Leftists passed a law in the early 1990's forcing private hospitals to take in the indigent and deadbeats and forcing those WITH insurance (or just those who paid their bills) to pay for them.
Now we have out of control health care costs.
Let's see, who caused this problem? Even a leftist should be able to figure that out.
But.....besides that...... the leeches will be back in the ER seeking their 'free' care as soon as they neglect to pay their deductible and copays at the doctors' offices.
Within a couple years, no doctors will see patients with Obamacare insurance.
The problem isn't the system. The problem is the leeches.
The uninsured aren't driving medical costs though. Players in the healthcare market, that have monopoly power, contribute more to the cost than the poor ever could. Also, the uninsured have better survival odds than the people on Medicaid do, so much for the idea that lack of health insurance kills, eh?
Obamacare is simply another cost shifting scheme placed atop a corrupt system, worse than what we have now, and one that will drive insurance premiums through the roof.
No one should ever go without access to health care. In my opinion (and a growing number of Americans') it's a basic human right. The conservative stance on this issue is helping doom their party because they espouse a world where only the wealthy should have access to health care. That's just not the way a majority of Americans feel about the subject. You'll hear a lot of conservative rhetoric about how most Americans don't like the ACA. A vast majority of the people who "don't like the ACA" do so because they feel that it does not go far enough in giving us the true goal: single payer. I defend the ACA tooth and nail but you could still technically lump me into the "don't like" category because of that fact.
There used to be Charity Hospitals that took charity cases.
Leftists passed a law in the early 1990's forcing private hospitals to take in the indigent and deadbeats and forcing those WITH insurance (or just those who paid their bills) to pay for them.
Let's see, who caused this problem? Even a leftist should be able to figure that out.
The American Hospital Association did and it started well before any of us were born.
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But.....besides that...... the leeches will be back in the ER seeking their 'free' care as soon as they neglect to pay their deductible and copays at the doctors' offices.
Possibly, but you always had people receiving free care; that aspect isn't that new.
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Within a couple years, no doctors will see patients with Obamacare insurance.
What is Obamacare insurance and how does it differ from Aetna, Humana, Kaiser, BCBS, or UnitedHealth?
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The problem isn't the system. The problem is the leeches.
The problem is hospitals with monopoly power and laws that only allow hospitals to provide you with treatment. Clinics are cheap, effective, efficient, and (gasp) European. I can prove that hospitals have an effect on pricing. Can you prove the poor do?
No one should ever go without access to health care. In my opinion (and a growing number of Americans') it's a basic human right. The conservative stance on this issue is helping doom their party because they espouse a world where only the wealthy should have access to health care. That's just not the way a majority of Americans feel about the subject. You'll hear a lot of conservative rhetoric about how most Americans don't like the ACA. A vast majority of the people who "don't like the ACA" do so because they feel that it does not go far enough in giving us the true goal: single payer. I defend the ACA tooth and nail but you could still technically lump me into the "don't like" category because of that fact.
The ACA doesn't do anything to lower the cost of healthcare.
The problem is hospitals with monopoly power and laws that only allow hospitals to provide you with treatment. Clinics are cheap, effective, efficient, and (gasp) European. I can prove that hospitals have an effect on pricing. Can you prove the poor do?
I would suggest not holding your breath while waiting on this.
The ACA (Obamacare) goes into effect Jan 1, 2014.... about 2 and a half months from now. At that time, adults and children that have health insurance purchased through the exchanges can start using it.
Prior to that time, uninsured people have just shown up at the Emergency Rooms in hospitals for treatment of illness or injuries, etc. We have been paying for that in the higher costs that these places charge. It's passed along.
My question is primarily for those that are against Obamacare. Do you think that uninsured people should also be turned away from Emergency Rooms since we have to pay for their care?
The problem has never been the few who show up at Emergency Rooms for treatment. The problem has always been the federal government involvement in health care. Insurance rates did not begin to skyrocket until after the government creation of MediCare/MedicAid. MediCare/MedicAid does not pay the full market value, which means that everyone else has to cover the costs that MediCare/MedicAid does not cover.
The Affordable Health Care Act is an sorry attempt by communists to fix a problem government created in the first place. As with their "War On Poverty" which put even more people into poverty, this communist abomination called "ObamaCare" will only succeed in denying even more people from obtaining health care.
The ACA doesn't do anything to lower the cost of healthcare.
But it gives more people access to it.
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