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Old 10-24-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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But volume of traffic was an issue, so obviously they should have done more testing. They shouldn't have been surprised by something as basic as traffic
That is a given. Most certainly that is part of the whole hurry up and get it done, no doubt. I didn't get the impression the real issue was volume of visitors. Using the word traffic can mean all kind of things. That seemed like a total spin. Again the specifics are vague.

Here is one of the articles, I think.
Obamacare Web Site 'Basically DDOS'ed ...

 
Old 10-24-2013, 03:55 PM
 
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When people get treated without insurance they are FORCING us to pay their bill. The bill, not only for treament, but for the recovery costs are passed along.
By that logic you could say that about everything.

Everything has an economic impact on everyone else. The whole economy is linked. Forcing someone to purchase something is ridiculous and abusive.

Health care makes the govt a great deal of money. So does insurance. That is all this is about is controlling cost and raising revenue.
 
Old 10-24-2013, 04:26 PM
 
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When the SCOTUS struck down the provision of the ACA that required all states to accept Medicaid expansions; the red states were chomping at the bit. States are free to reject Medicaid expansions that would cost them nothing the first year and a trivial amount later. So the question is...How can states turn down money to insure their poorest members? Unbridled Spite...Spite to slap the hand of literally anything that has Obama's name on it.

What is their real justification? Rate Shock? Nah...not that.

Some of them have the audacity to claim that Medicaid actually hurts it's recipients. The evidence the right wingers in power have used......those that are on Medicaid tend to be sicker.

"O.K., you know what to do: Google “spurious correlation health.” You are immediately led to the tale of certain Pacific Islanders who long believed tha having lice made you healthy, because they observed that people with lice were, typically, healthier than those without. They were, of course, mixing up cause and effect: lice tend to infest the healthy, so they were a consequence, not a cause, of good health.
The application to Medicaid should be obvious. Sick people are likely to have low incomes; more generally, low-income Americans who qualify for Medicaid just tend in general to have poor health. So pointing to a correlation between Medicaid and poor health as evidence that Medicaid actually hurts its recipients is as foolish as claiming that lice make you healthy. It is, as I said, a lousy argument."
-Krugman.

So in summation. The rightie governors are planning on all denying Medicaid expansions in an ill-fated attempt to keep the poorest and sickest members of society off Medicaid roles.....for their own good? This is a great sign of the Right's moral and intellectual path towards the oblivion and it's all in the name of spite.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/21/op...rssnyt&emc=rss

In general, states which rejected Medicaid expansion tend to be states with the most regressive tax structures. The general hope in these states seems to be that if your policies are sufficiently regressive, poor people will vote with their feet.
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