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Old 02-12-2013, 11:51 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Law allowing guns in churches signed by Arkansas governor - U.S. News

The question i have for you religious folks is: What would Jesus do?
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but most Christians believe that Jesus is God. He is omnipotent. He doesn't need to carry a gun.

Regular folks don't have super powers.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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"But I tell you: Love your enemies and shoot those who persecute you"
- Matthew 5:44
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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Law allowing guns in churches signed by Arkansas governor - U.S. News

The question i have for you religious folks is: What would Jesus do?
Moses and Jesus Fight The Romans (HQ) - YouTube
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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Sure people say Jesus is nonviolent but if he lived in Arkansas he'd be packing heat too. As it says in the bible "pick up your guns and lets roll." It's somewhere in the back.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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The Church Protection Act would allow individual places of worship to decide whether to allow concealed handguns and who could carry them. Churches that take no action will remain off-limits to guns.
The horror of it! Churches making their own decisions! If you ask me, the state should decide who should allow guns onto their property.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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I don't have problem with carrying in church or not but shouldn't that a decision from each individual church not the government?
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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Maybe these people wish someone in the church had been armed:

Woman decorating church, 2 others killed by gunman in rural Pennsylvania shooting | Fox News

Knoxville church shooting News for Knoxville, TN from Knoxville News Sentinel

Deadly church shooting at Flint funeral is widely ignored outside of Genesee County | MLive.com


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February 14, 2010 - Richmond, California - Three hooded men
walk into Gethsemane Church of God in Christ and opened
fire and then fled the scene, as the singing of the choir
was replaced by frightened screams. The two victims, a 14-
year-old boy and a 19-year-old man, were hospitalized.

March 8, 2009 - Maryville, Illinois - Suspect Terry Joe
Sedlacek, 27, of Troy, walks into the First Baptist Church,
and shoots pastor Fred Winters dead, point blank. Several
church members are injured by a knife in the struggle to
capture after the attack, The suspect also had stabbed
himself, but survived, when his gun jams.

July 27, 2008 - Knoxville, Tennessee - A gunman opens fire
in a church during a youth performance, killing two people
and injuring seven.

Dec. 9, 2007 - Colorado - Three people are killed and five
wounded in two shooting rampages, one at a missionary
school in suburban Denver and one at a church in Colorado
Springs. The gunman in the second incident is killed by a
guard.

May 20, 2007 - Moscow, Idaho - A standoff between police
and a suspect in the shootings of three people in a
Presbyterian Church ended with three dead, including one
police officer.

Aug. 12, 2007 - Neosho, Missouri - First Congregational
Church - 3 killed - Eiken Elam Saimon shot and killed the
pastor and two deacons and wounded five others.

May 21, 2006 - Baton Rouge, Louisiana - The Ministry of
Jesus Christ Church - 4 killed - The four at the church who
were shot were members of Erica Bell's family; she was
abducted and murdered elsewhere; Bell's mother, church
pastor Claudia Brown, was seriously wounded - Anthony Bell,
25, was the shooter.

Feb. 26, 2006 - Detroit, Michigan - Zion Hope Missionary
Baptist Church - 2 killed + shooter - Kevin L. Collins, who
reportedly went to the church looking for his girlfriend,
later killed himself.

April 9, 2005 - College Park, Georgia - A 27-year-old
airman died after being shot at a church, where he had once
worked as a security guard.

March 12, 2005 - Brookfield, Wisconsin - Living Church of
God - 7 killed + shooter - Terry Ratzmann opened fire on
the congregation, killing seven and wounding four before
taking his own life.

July 30, 2005 - College Park, Georgia - World Changers
Church International - shooter killed - Air Force Staff
Sgt. John Givens was shot five times by a police officer
after charging the officer, following violent behavior.

Dec. 17, 2004, Garden Grove, Calif.: A veteran musician at
the Crystal Cathedral shoots himself to death after a nine
-hour standoff.

Oct. 5, 2003 - Atlanta, Georgia - Turner Monumental AME
Church - 2 killed + shooter - Shelia Wilson walked into the
church while preparations are being made for service and
shot the pastor, her mother and then herself.

June 10, 2002 - Conception, Missouri - Benedictine
monastery - 2 killed + shooter - Lloyd Robert Jeffress shot
four monks in the monastery killing two and wounding two,
before killing himself.

March 12, 2002 - Lynbrook, New York - Our Lady of Peace
Catholic Church - 2 killed - Peter Troy, a former mental
patient, opens fire during Mass, killing the priest and a
parishioner. He later receives a life sentence.

May 18, 2001 - Hopkinsville, Kentucky - Greater Oak
Missionary Baptist Church - 2 killed - Frederick Radford
stood up in the middle of a revival service and began
shooting at his estranged wife, Nicole Radford, killing her
and a woman trying to help her.

Sept. 15, 1999 - Fort Worth, Texas - Wedgewood Baptist
Church - 7 killed + shooter - Larry Gene Ashbrook shot dead
seven people and injured a further seven at a concert by
Christian rock group Forty Days in Fort Worth, Texas before
killing himself.

April 15, 1999 - Salt Lake City, Utah - LDS Church Family
History Library - 2 killed + shooter - Sergei Babarin, 70,
with a history of mental illness, entered the library,
killed two people and wounded four others before he was
gunned down by police.
18 church shootings in 11 years (A comprehensive list)

I don't believe that Jesus expects us to stand by and allow innocent people to be slaughtered if we can step in and stop it.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Jesus reccomended that his disciples buy a sword, which was the "assault weapon" of his time.

See Luke 22:36-38.

Sure, the Romans used artillery, but that isn't a weapon that can be easily carried.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Yea but even if you have a gun and someone starts shooting up the place will you react in time before they shoot you?
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