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Old 10-31-2013, 05:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
Lying is necessary to get his agenda passed.

If he told people honestly what he intended to do, who would ever vote for him?


yes, but people who think DID not fall for his bull crap
the question is not about Obama's lies
it is why then hell did people by his lies???
why did people vote for him AGAIN??? if they had not, maybe just maybe we would be going in another direction
but instead we have this hack and his hirelings for 3 more years!!! quit blaming Obama and start asking
what was I THINKING????!!!
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:54 AM
 
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any wagers on Obama's poll number hitting the 20's by Christmas!!
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:41 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Obama blames "bad apple insurers" for canceled insurance plans

See! He has already found someone other than himself for the situation.

I wondered how long it would take for him to play the pass the blame game.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:47 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Sigh. 62% of bankruptcies were for medical reasons. Of those...75% of those folks had insurance. So yeah he is right. those were people who thought they were insured on a really inexpensive plan.

That didnt REALLY cover them.

That being said....he needs to step up and say "OK yeah a lot of plans went away on this, more then we were expecting, I was wrong when I said X"

Yes I voted for him, no I don't regret it. Get a moderate Republican up and I might vote for him. Huntsmen was good (yes I know you all hated him) and I might have voted for him. Romney was a freaking nightmare.
Yet Romney is the one who created Romneycare which Obama copied as closely as possible. Since this is a fact and you claim Romney was a "freaking nightmare" it follows that you feel Obamacare to be a "freaking nightmare" too. Or is it only good when Obama tells you it is good?
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:48 AM
 
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You really need to get on the distribution list for the daily tea party talking points. They change in an instant and can swing 180 with the drop of a hat.
It is kinds funny when their talking points are so obvious. It's as though they are given a weekly list of words and phrases then every single one of them uses the word at least three times in every statement that each of them makes on the talk shows or fox. Then tune on to Hannity or Limbaugh and they are using it. The next week, a new phrase or word. I wonder who sends out the notifications of words. The Heritage Foundation?
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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Yet Romney is the one who created Romneycare which Obama copied as closely as possible. Since this is a fact and you claim Romney was a "freaking nightmare" it follows that you feel Obamacare to be a "freaking nightmare" too. Or is it only good when Obama tells you it is good?
You really need to bone up on romney care....here, read, it may **** you off, but knowledge is your friend...



http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stor...alth-care.aspx
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Don't forget what happened when Massachusetts ran into some financial difficulties....

"When the Massachusetts legislature needed to trim $130 million from the cost of Romneycare, it canceled coverage for 30,000 legal immigrants–a stark reminder that governments ration care by targeting those who wield the least political power."
Romney's Folly - Health-Care Mandates Are a Middle-Class Tax | Cato Institute

(Yes, I know it was rescinded)
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:57 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Obama leaned on the banks to make bad loans.

Whitehouse dot gov asked people to send the names of people who opposed obamacare.. then retracted

2008 prez campaign, Obama lawyers threatened to sue those who told lies about obama... then retracted

2012 prez election, IRS used to crush voter participation and crush political opposition.

Obama made a deal with insurance companies who thought their alliance would save them. they based their business plan according to Obama's schedule. The insurance companies now find themselves to be 'USEFUL IDIOTS'.

Deceit, lies and covert action to commit nefarious intent are the characteristics history will record, unless Michelle gets her way and rewrites our history as she predicted in her Phillipine speech.

Socialism has never gotten so close to reality in America.... the momentum is so great it will not be stopped at any cost. Obama sees the goal line and he intends to cross it.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Sigh. 62% of bankruptcies were for medical reasons. Of those...75% of those folks had insurance. So yeah he is right. those were people who thought they were insured on a really inexpensive plan.

That didnt REALLY cover them.

That being said....he needs to step up and say "OK yeah a lot of plans went away on this, more then we were expecting, I was wrong when I said X"

Yes I voted for him, no I don't regret it. Get a moderate Republican up and I might vote for him. Huntsmen was good (yes I know you all hated him) and I might have voted for him. Romney was a freaking nightmare.

Insurance will NEVER cover 100% of all expenses. Even if it covers 70%, the remaining 30% can bankrupt people who refuse to have a savings account or are mortgage poor. No insurance company will survive providing hundreds of thousands in reimbursements for someone only paying a few hundred dollars a month in premiums.
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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poor insurance companies

they're people, too
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