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Old 11-15-2013, 08:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I don't run my business as a "one size fits all" mentality.
That is a formula for bankruptcy, every time.

 
Old 11-15-2013, 08:07 AM
 
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Obama set up to blame insurance companies. He had 3 1/2 years to set up obamacare yet he expects insurance companies to change course in 30 days.

Obama said he will veto the Upton bill (you can keep your insurance bill). Obama called a meeting with insurance companies today. It's time for strong arm tactics.
 
Old 11-15-2013, 08:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Jerseyt719 View Post
This is what I don't get. I'm sure if you needed and could afford more coverage before, you would have bought it. You bought what you wanted and what you could afford and now you're being told you are required by law to pay more for coverage whether you want, need or can afford it.

It's unreal to me.
Dude .....this is not America anymore........We just allowed them to take our freedom to CHOOSE what is best for us!!
 
Old 11-15-2013, 08:10 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Obama Still Blames Other People!!!





Obama will always blame someone else for his inability to run this country. He is not man enough to take responsibility for his own actions. After 5 years in office blaming Bush for everything doesn't fly anymore.
 
Old 11-15-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
Of course it will.

Only a moron would have believed that-

1. we could insure 40 million people for nothing
2. insuring 40 million people would not raise taxes
3. insuring 40 million people would not raise the debt
4. prices would not rise
5. those currently with insurance would pay more for less coverage


This was simple, elementary school math, folks. It is simply amazing that anyone believed any of the promises Obama made, as it was mathematically impossible.

What is shocking as well is that we still have Obamacare proponants still defending this insanity.
Many were duped because they are either of low intelligence, naive, or just don't give a hoot about important things like this unless it directly affects them. So when they were getting ready to go surfing, out clubbing, or watching Honey Bo Bo, when they heard Obama saying no loss of current policy, no change in your doctor, no cost increase in your policy, and everyone else would get a great deal via $2,500 less, they believed it. Part of the reason might very well not been partisanship, rather apathy. I am never amazed any more when I speak to people who have no idea who the VP is, Governor or Senators are from their own state.
Many don't even know the basic things we grew up learning in middle school, much less current national and world events. Yet ask them when one of their pop/movies stars had her last yeast infection that prevented her from sleeping with someone, and they know it.

I was listening to a report the other day that said kids are watching/using media on the TV's, phones, and tablets/ipads for 7 hours per day.
You know damn well they are not on the History channel or reading about what made this country great. Instead they are playing games, engaging in trivial social mediums, texting, binge watching TV series on Netflix, etc.

I am not sure how our society can turn things around, and the aforementioned does not look like they have the promising future we did growing up. What is worse is that our country and what it stands for is slowly eroding away.

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Old 11-15-2013, 08:12 AM
 
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Obama Still Blames Other People!!!

Obama will always blame someone else for his inability to run this country. He is not man enough to take responsibility for his own actions. After 5 years in office blaming Bush for everything doesn't fly anymore.
The liberal media is part to blame because they covered his butt all the time. This time they were not able to but they are trying.
 
Old 11-15-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Vector1 View Post
Many were duped because they are either of low intelligence, naive, or just don't give a hoot about important things like this unless it directly affects them. So when they were getting ready to go surfing, out clubbing, or watching Honey Bo Bo, when they heard Obama saying no loss of current policy, no change in your doctor, no cost increase in your policy, and everyone else would get a great deal via $2,500 less, they believed it. Part of the reason might very well not been partisanship, rather apathy. I am never amazed any more when I speak to people who have no idea who the VP is, Governor or Senators are from their own state.
Many don't even know the basic things we grew up learning in middle school, much less current national and world events. Yet ask them when one of their pop/movies stars had her last yeast infection that prevented her from sleeping with someone, and they know it.

I was listening to a report the other day that said kids are watching/using media on the TV's, phones, and tablets/ipads for 7 hours per day.
You know damn well they are not on the History channel or reading about what made this country great. Instead they are playing games, engaging in trivial social mediums, texting, binge watching TV series on Netflix, etc.

I am not sure how our society can turn things around, and the aforementioned does not look like they have the promising future we did growing up. What is worse is that our country and what it stands for is slowly eroding away.

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It's too late. Taking a freebie away is comparative to taking a bone away from a pit bull.
 
Old 11-15-2013, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by Isee-you View Post
Obama set up to blame insurance companies. He had 3 1/2 years to set up obamacare yet he expects insurance companies to change course in 30 days.

Obama said he will veto the Upton bill (you can keep your insurance bill). Obama called a meeting with insurance companies today. It's time for strong arm tactics.
The insurance companies SHOULD be blamed.

Did you know:

"First, it is important to note that the ACA grand-fathered all the individual policies that were in place at the time the law was enacted. This means that the plans in effect at the time that President Obama was pushing the bill could still be offered even if they did not meet all the standards laid out in the ACA."

So, what plans are being cancelled you now ask?

These:
"The plans being terminated because they don’t meet the minimal standards were all plans that insurers introduced after the passage of the ACA. Insurers introduced these plans knowing that they would not meet the standards that would come into effect in 2014."

Basically, the insurers conned people knowing that human nature being what it is, they wouldn't be blamed.
Voila. Here we are.

Obama never lied about your plan - Salon.com
 
Old 11-15-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24 View Post
The insurance companies SHOULD be blamed.

Did you know:

"First, it is important to note that the ACA grand-fathered all the individual policies that were in place at the time the law was enacted. This means that the plans in effect at the time that President Obama was pushing the bill could still be offered even if they did not meet all the standards laid out in the ACA."

So, what plans are being cancelled you now ask?

These:
"The plans being terminated because they don’t meet the minimal standards were all plans that insurers introduced after the passage of the ACA. Insurers introduced these plans knowing that they would not meet the standards that would come into effect in 2014."

Basically, the insurers conned people knowing that human nature being what it is, they wouldn't be blamed.
Voila. Here we are.

Obama never lied about your plan - Salon.com
Nope, The Law should have reigned them in then. The Law was written terribly. Stop passing the Buck. Your beloved Federal Government has failed you and millions of Americans once again.
 
Old 11-15-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by summers73 View Post
Why make a deterministic statement with a resounding "PERIOD." at the end of it if he was only talking about the majority of people? Why not just say "The vast majority will be able to keep their plan"?

Because he was unsure on whether ACA would pass, so he needed lies to get over that hump.
He was still lying about it after it passed. The man would be facing fraud charges if he was the head of an insurance company making promises that he knew were impossible to keep.
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