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Old 11-22-2013, 01:21 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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They used to be … but the world is a different place. The GOTP has been making history -- in a way which has destroyed their brand completely -- since Day 1.

Never before in US history has a political party actively worked to sign its own death warrant by the stupidity, venality and greed of its actions.

Congratulation!
Really confused, why exactly is the house controlled by the GOP then? Or the majority of governors?

You are just as delusional as the conservatives that declared the democrats dead in 2002.

The American people are starting to see just how crappy the democrats are, then they will elect republicans, then the American people will be reminded how crappy the republicans are and then elect democrats again, and so on.
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Old 11-22-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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You are aware the propose of the filibuster was meant to protect the rights of the minority party. Funny Harry Reid warm against again changing the rules, yet he loves the idea now.

That is absolutely not what the purpose of it was. It was an exploitation of a simple point of parliamentary procedure. That loophole was never even exploited until the pro-slavery faction in the Senate first tried it in the 1830s.

Its a the lowest guess its 15,000,000 and its its highest end its might be 30,000,000 as for citizenship it depends on which daft you read, but it wont pass.

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That's fine, it won't pass, and the GOP will pay for it politically, it's their funeral I guess.
No you don't, care about the rules or the laws. if that was the case the border would be secure and the 2nd Amendment would be uninfriged upon.

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I do care about the law and already exposed your hypocrisy when it came to the 2nd Amendment elsewhere. If you're such a strict constructionist and Constitutional purist, then you can explain why the 2nd Amendment doesn't give you right to possess nuclear or chemical arms. But you ducked that argument. You're not a purist, you're not a strict-constructionist, you've twisted interpretation of the law to suit your narrow purposes and are unwilling to bring yourself to admit that you've already agreed to compromise on a literal interpretation of the 2nd Amendment by allowing that individuals should not have nuclear and chemical arms.
How will we pay for it? we wont get the voters of the amnesty recipients any ways, we will get more votes from the working Class, Blacks and Hispanics just on the fact they will not have to compete that much harder for fewer and fewer jobs that are available as well as losing a great deal of political representation.

Easy, those arms are not in common usage, in the last 50 year how many nuclear weapons have been used? none, How many times have chemical weapons been used(by a nation state not terrorist groups) less then 15 times.

Also there is the cost factor the average suitcase nuke is about 10 million to 30 million per nuke, and its a one usage device as well, so that fact alone puts it out of the reach of the common man.

Cost/Benifit/Risk Ratio


So what hypocrisy are you talking about?

Also learn how to quote properly.
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Old 11-22-2013, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Really.


As a healthcare professional who understands the law and so can see through the hand waving, I suggest those are chickens you should perhaps wait to count.

But thanks again for the entertainment.
I find disgusting you find it entertainment that millions are losing their coverage.
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Old 11-22-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Until a Republican gets elected and you liberals are unable to block his pro-life court appointments. Then you'll miss it.

There is no "merely" about radically altering the Senate.

The Republicans didn't change the rules governing the filibuster. The Republicans used the existing rules. There's a difference. Putting your spin on it doesn't change that.

There's a wide gulf between mass deportations and mass granting of citizenship. Again, you're simply using spin.

It is impossible to care about the rules and support Democrats at this time. I mean just look at what you did in this post. You dismissed the Democrats doing away with the Senate rules on filibustering, then said you care a lot about the rules. Those two don't go together.

How about you follow your own advice? You don't like filibusters, then try winning enough elections so you won't get filibustered. You don't get to change the rules of who can filibuster what just because you're losing. You're being hypocritical. In the very same post where you say you don't get to change the rules just because they're not working to your advantage, you supported Democrats changing longstanding rules when they weren't working to Democrat advantage.

Nor is deporting people close to giving them the vote. Why not refrain from spin yourself before you accuse others of spinning?
Are talking to me or Votre_Chef?

Also the 5,000,000 number is NRA member and how MAIG use that 0.0002 that support expended background and tried to pass it off as 90% of NRA members as a whole.
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Old 11-22-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I still haven't figured out how a Republican Party moving so far to the right they'd call Reagan a RINO doesn't see how both a changing demographic and more liberal social views of younger voters that they expect to eventually make up their base means anything other than they're about to scream their way into irrelevancy within the next two decades unless they moderate, which will be difficult considering how they painted themselves into a corner by forming a coalition with fundamentalist Bible thumpers and free market absolutists. I suspect after the 2032 election the coroner will write "death by suicide" on the GOP's death certificate even though the Republican supporters will insist the party was murdered by the Democrats.
We are not moving to the right, we are moving to the side of liberty and the Constitution.

You are aware young voters do in fact grow up, right?
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Old 11-22-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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We are not moving to the right, we are moving to the side of liberty and the Constitution.

You are aware young voters do in fact grow up, right?
It's hilarious that you think all older people turn conservative. How do you account for all those older democrat voters? How could that possibly be? According to you, black is black & white is white.
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Old 11-22-2013, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Really confused, why exactly is the house controlled by the GOP then? Or the majority of governors?

You are just as delusional as the conservatives that declared the democrats dead in 2002.

The American people are starting to see just how crappy the democrats are, then they will elect republicans, then the American people will be reminded how crappy the republicans are and then elect democrats again, and so on.
Things never change for the better, do they?
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Old 11-22-2013, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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It's hilarious that you think all older people turn conservative. How do you account for all those older democrat voters? How could that possibly be? According to you, black is black & white is white.
Did I say that they would be come conservative? its easy to support high taxes when are you in college, check back in 5 or 10 years when they are running their own business, see if they support cap and trade when they have a power bill that is too high already,

After the healthcare fluster cluck and the never ending miles of red tape, to top it off a double dip recession, an unsecured border and the promise of amnesty, Iran and North Korea are more bold then ever before, The middle east is set to descend into a Jihadist Caliphate

Yeah that is a great track record after 8 years.
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Old 11-22-2013, 03:05 PM
 
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Did I say that they would be come conservative? its easy to support high taxes when are you in college, check back in 5 or 10 years when they are running their own business, see if they support cap and trade when they have a power bill that is too high already,

After the healthcare fluster cluck and the never ending miles of red tape, to top it off a double dip recession, an unsecured border and the promise of amnesty, Iran and North Korea are more bold then ever before, The middle east is set to descend into a Jihadist Caliphate

Yeah that is a great track record after 8 years.
So when you posted this, You are aware young voters do in fact grow up, right?, you weren't alluding to the assumption that people turn conservative when they get older (grow up)? Riiight.

Myself & almost everyone I know, friends, coworkers, have actually gotten more liberal as we've gotten older. I'm talking all age groups, 20-60's. So there goes your theory.
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Old 11-22-2013, 03:12 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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We are not moving to the right, we are moving to the side of liberty and the Constitution.

You are aware young voters do in fact grow up, right?
Well, then, what happened to you?
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