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Old 12-29-2013, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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your immune system offers you lifetime immunity from the chicken pox.

The vaccine industry false tries to claim its vaccines work exactly the same way: They cause the body to produce antibodies against a certain viral strain. But there's something you're not being told about vaccines: They don't really produce the same quality and strength of antibodies that your own body would produce from a natural infection and recovery. That's why the vaccines "wear off" and leave you with zero protection from the very strains they inoculate you against.

In other words, vaccines don't work as advertised. And that's why the vaccine industry has to keep pushing the same vaccine strains year after year. Because, think about it: If vaccines actually worked as intended, they would give you lifetime immunity against whatever strains you were injected with, right? And yet the CDC now openly admits vaccines don't offer that at all:

"This year's flu shot will be a duplicate of last year's because the same flu strains are still circulating," reports the Associated Press in an article about the CDC. "Government health officials are urging nearly everyone to get this fall's flu shot. They say a vaccine's protection can fade significantly after several months."


Since the CDC admits they don't work as advertised, its scarcely a "tin foil" hat idea. Turn off the mainstream corporate news and ask your own physician.
Chickenpox usually, not always, provides lifetime immunity. Then there is the risk of shingles for the rest of your life.

Children who are vaccinated against chickenpox who subsequently develop leukemia (which increases the risk of shingles) are less likely to have shingles:

The incidence of zoster after immunization with... [N Engl J Med. 1991] - PubMed - NCBI

Having a natural influenza infection will not prevent you from getting it again; you can still get another strain. What the vaccine can do is prevent you from getting sick from the strains that are probably going to be most prevalent in a particular season. So the choices are to take the vaccine and reduce the risk of getting sick by about two thirds -- each season -- or not take it and be that much more likely to get sick --- each season.

Since the vaccines do work as they are described, no one is trying to mislead you. The fact that a vaccine requires a booster does not mean it does not work! Tetanus vaccines "wear off", too, you know.

The physicians I have talked to recommend the vaccine and take it themselves.

And 90% of the children who die from influenza were not vaccinated.

 
Old 12-29-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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Often they leave you open to OTHER THINGS later in life
Like what "other things"?
 
Old 12-29-2013, 10:50 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Ah, the old "tin foil hat" ploy. How original.
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Originally Posted by dreamofmonterey View Post
your immune system offers you lifetime immunity from the chicken pox.

The vaccine industry false tries to claim its vaccines work exactly the same way: They cause the body to produce antibodies against a certain viral strain. But there's something you're not being told about vaccines: They don't really produce the same quality and strength of antibodies that your own body would produce from a natural infection and recovery. That's why the vaccines "wear off" and leave you with zero protection from the very strains they inoculate you against.

In other words, vaccines don't work as advertised. And that's why the vaccine industry has to keep pushing the same vaccine strains year after year. Because, think about it: If vaccines actually worked as intended, they would give you lifetime immunity against whatever strains you were injected with, right? And yet the CDC now openly admits vaccines don't offer that at all:

"This year's flu shot will be a duplicate of last year's because the same flu strains are still circulating," reports the Associated Press in an article about the CDC. "Government health officials are urging nearly everyone to get this fall's flu shot. They say a vaccine's protection can fade significantly after several months."


Since the CDC admits they don't work as advertised, its scarcely a "tin foil" hat idea. Turn off the mainstream corporate news and ask your own physician.
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Originally Posted by Hot_Handz View Post

Go get your hoax vaccine...

While you are at it, go get your scaremonger vaccine or else it will mutate into a SUPER STRAIN OH NOEZZZZZ
Why don't vaccines work? I want an immunological answer to why vaccines don't work.
 
Old 12-29-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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Very sound logic Miss Terri, and a good example for others to follow. And I believe more people are doing that today, than in recent times past. Part of that I believe is because of the hubris of the mainstream who no longer regulate themselves and the message they present to the public. Just last week, CNN reported on a "new study" that concluded that vitamin and mineral supplements provided no health benefit, but were avtually toxic and harmful. This type of over-the-top propaganda is doing more to discredit these liars than their opponents could ever hope to do. People are just not as stupid as these con artists apparently believe, and junk science like this only adds to the credibility concerns people are naturally beginning to detect on their own.

While even within the mainstream community, contradictions are becoming more apparent, as people are warned about mercury levels in a can of tuna, while dismissing concerns about injecting mercury laced vaccines into their bodies, even into pregnant women. You look at a warning on a tube of toothpaste containing fluoride, which tells you to contact poison control if a pea sized amount of that is swallowed ...a rational person must ask themselves why would you EVER put in your mouth something that a pea sized amount would cause a health emergency if swallowed? And who in their right minds would allow their young children to put that in their mouths .... particularly the bubble gum flavored variety? It is nothing short of pure insanity. But you really have to expend some effort to locate toothpaste that is fluoride free, while none of the most popular and recognized brands offer such a choice. I'd bet that 2/3 of the general public have no idea that the common toothpaste they buy is so toxic, that such a tiny amount could pose a health emergency. Most people would naturally assume (erroneously) that such a toxic substance wouldn't be allowed on the shelves for sale. Nor would they expect that such s toxic substance be added to their drinking water, claiming it to br not just safe, but beneficial !

Just the fluoride issue itself is clear proof of the total disregard mainstream consumer protection agencies like the FDA have regarding the public health, and is at best malfeasance, and at worst, insidious malevolence. (The preponderance of all evidence suggests the latter)

So how can anyone trust anything the FDA has to say about vaccine safety? The obvious answer is, you can't, if you have a lick of common sense.
Because it is clear you have little formal science education. If you did you would know the devil is in the dose. The amount of mercury you would inject through vaccinations is miniscule amount that the human body can easily process.

As to fluoride, where are your the long term studies?
 
Old 12-29-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Like what "other things"?
They don't know. I'm sure you've noticed the lack of "evidence" showing EXACTLY how vaccinations don't work..... just a bunch of generalizations about how govt is bad.
 
Old 12-29-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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smallpox was around for most of human history. in the 20th century, it killed more people than all of the wars, genocides and criminal acts combined. throughout history, smallpox killed a diverse array of people--

it killed kings & peasants, it killed the religious & atheists, it killed warriors and pacifists. it killed people who prayed for relief. it killed people who dabbled in the occult. it killed blacks, whites, indians and asians. it killed men, women and children.

then, a smallpox vaccine was invented. because of this, that ancient scourge of humanity is now extinct. you're kind of slow if you don't believe vaccines work.

that being said, the notion of the government telling you what you must have injected into your body is downright offensive. that's between you & your doctor and no one else.
A big reason the smallpox vaccine worked is because almost everyone received it. They didn't have the internet giving out false information from naturalnews.com misleading people into avoiding it.
 
Old 12-29-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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Squalene, injected, goes to places it would never go through any other mechanism such as eating or creating it.

Aluminum and mercury, and tweaked dead viruses, go EVERYWHERE your body never intended them to be.
Last time I checked the bloodstream is the body's transport network that carriers everything you ingest or inject throughout the body.

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Confused antibodies easily become "anti-personal"-"anti-corporate".
How do vaccines accomplish that?

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A few micrograms of a Georgia peanut can cause an all out deadly attack on the
person corporate.
Exactly. Until we can develop tailored made vaccinations to individuals, there will always be a very small percentage with varying negative reactions.
 
Old 12-29-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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Last time I checked the bloodstream is the body's transport network that carriers everything you ingest or inject throughout the body.

How do vaccines accomplish that?

Exactly. Until we can develop tailored made vaccinations to individuals, there will always be a very small percentage with varying negative reactions.
Tobacco has been the patsy for vaccine cancers.

"Dr. Michele Carbone openly acknowledged HIV/AIDS was spread by the hepatitis B vaccine produced by Merck & Co. during the early 1970s. It was the first time since the initial transmissions took place in 1972-74, that a leading expert in the field of vaccine manufacturing and testing has openly admitted the Merk & Co. liability for AIDS.

The matter-of-fact disclosure came during discussions of polio vaccines contaminated with SV40 virus which caused cancer in nearly every species infected by injection. Many authorities now admit much, possibly most, of the world’s cancers came from the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines, and hepatitis B vaccines, produced in monkeys and chimps.

It is said mesothelioma is a result of asbestos exposure, but research reveals that 50% of the current mesothelioma cases being treated no longer occurs due to asbestos but rather the SV40 virus contained in the polio vaccination. In addition, according to researchers from the Institute of Histology and General Embryology of the University of Ferrara, SV40 has turned up in a variety of other tumours. By the end of 1996, dozens of scientists reported finding SV40 in a variety of bone cancers and a wide range of brain cancers, which had risen 30 percent over the previous 20 years.

The SV40 virus is now being detected in tumours removed from people never inoculated with the contaminated vaccine, leading some to conclude that those infected by the vaccine might be spreading SV40."

- See more at: Millions Estimated To Have Been Contaminated With SV40 Virus Through Polio Vaccine | Collective-Evolution
 
Old 12-29-2013, 08:00 PM
 
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Tobacco has been the patsy for vaccine cancers.

"Dr. Michele Carbone openly acknowledged HIV/AIDS was spread by the hepatitis B vaccine produced by Merck & Co. during the early 1970s. It was the first time since the initial transmissions took place in 1972-74, that a leading expert in the field of vaccine manufacturing and testing has openly admitted the Merk & Co. liability for AIDS.

The matter-of-fact disclosure came during discussions of polio vaccines contaminated with SV40 virus which caused cancer in nearly every species infected by injection. Many authorities now admit much, possibly most, of the world’s cancers came from the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines, and hepatitis B vaccines, produced in monkeys and chimps.

It is said mesothelioma is a result of asbestos exposure, but research reveals that 50% of the current mesothelioma cases being treated no longer occurs due to asbestos but rather the SV40 virus contained in the polio vaccination. In addition, according to researchers from the Institute of Histology and General Embryology of the University of Ferrara, SV40 has turned up in a variety of other tumours. By the end of 1996, dozens of scientists reported finding SV40 in a variety of bone cancers and a wide range of brain cancers, which had risen 30 percent over the previous 20 years.

The SV40 virus is now being detected in tumours removed from people never inoculated with the contaminated vaccine, leading some to conclude that those infected by the vaccine might be spreading SV40."

- See more at: Millions Estimated To Have Been Contaminated With SV40 Virus Through Polio Vaccine | Collective-Evolution
There is no evidence that HIV could survive the manufacturing process of the early hepatitis B vaccine:

Current Trends Hepatitis B Vaccine: Evidence Confirming Lack of AIDS Transmission

"The recent identification of AIDS' etiologic agent has made possible direct laboratory measurement of virus inactivation, nucleic acid presence, and serologic evidence of infection. These studies were unable to detect the AIDS virus' viral protein or nucleic acid in the purified vaccine product and clearly indicate that if virus were present, it would be killed by the manufacturing procedures. In addition, epidemiologic monitoring of AIDS cases and high-risk groups confirms the lack of AIDS transmission by HB vaccine."

In addition, current hepatitis B vaccine is not made from human blood products, which eliminates any scintilla of risk for contamination with HIV or any virus.

There is no evidence that definitively links SV40 in polio vaccine to human cancers:

SV40 and human cancer: a review of recent data. [Int J Cancer. 2007] - PubMed - NCBI

Cancer risk associated with receipt of v... [Expert Rev Vaccines. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI

Cancer incidence in Denmark following exp... [J Natl Cancer Inst. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI

There is evidence that laboratory error may play a part in producing false positive tests for SV40 in tumors:

Evidence against a role for SV40 infecti... [Lancet. 2004 Sep 25-Oct 1] - PubMed - NCBI

You may use tobacco if you wish, but it does cause cancer.

Meanwhile, 90% of children who die from influenza were not vaccinated against it.
 
Old 12-29-2013, 09:56 PM
 
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A big reason the smallpox vaccine worked is because almost everyone received it. They didn't have the internet giving out false information from naturalnews.com misleading people into avoiding it.
Smallpox vaccine worked against all strains of smallpox. Smallpox vaccine only had to be taken once, not once a year. While smallpox vaccine had side effects, they were far less serious than the disease. And finally, there are no known non-human reservoirs for smallpox.
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