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Old 12-18-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I thought Texas was the pinnacle of freedom in this country?
That's what the idiots who keep moving here think.

I wish they'd leave and take their police state BS with them.
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Old 12-18-2013, 06:16 PM
 
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I keep on reading this and I don't see where the title of the story makes any sense. You might say that after the fact that they were searched for future crimes but nobody knew that they weren't up and cooking by now.

There are times that searches don't turn up what was hoped for. I would still toss the evidence because of how they went about getting the warrant but as a judge I'd sign the warrant under a different scenario.

If the police came to me and said that they have had a suspect under watch for a month and on good information they have been told that the suspect had been able to sneak in the means to cook meth you don't have to wait until they walk out with the meth to arrest them.

It seems that they were in the midst of committing a crime even if they hadn't completed the crime yet. The warrant wasn't approved because they might some day commit a crime.
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Old 12-18-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I thought Texas was the pinnacle of freedom in this country?
Your entire country is at serious risk of becoming a complete "Police state".
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Old 12-18-2013, 06:57 PM
 
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Your entire country is at serious risk of becoming a complete "Police state".
If we aren't one already. The only OECD country ahead of us in that department is the UK. They have street cameras EVERYWHERE. Ever see the British movie Hot Fuzz? "From this command center, I can see what the whole village is up to" is actually reality

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That's what the idiots who keep moving here think.

I wish they'd leave and take their police state BS with them.
That's what right-wingers who live in Texas keep saying seems like there's a disconnect here somewhere...
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:11 PM
 
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Its called conspiracy and like always search warrants have to be based on probable cause issued by a judge. Nothing new there.
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:16 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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How about arresting everyone at a bar for future drunk driving?

So, there was a judge ordered search warrant, that found all the chemicals for cooking meth?

Thing is, all the chemicals are legal to own. Once they get put on the stove mixed, then it is a crime, but not before.
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:20 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I thought Texas was the pinnacle of freedom in this country?

Far from it. Ever been to Austin? They have the most racist democrat appointed police force in Texas.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:58 AM
 
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So, there was a judge ordered search warrant, that found all the chemicals for cooking meth?

Thing is, all the chemicals are legal to own. Once they get put on the stove mixed, then it is a crime, but not before.
This is my thought also. A slippery slope to follow.
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Old 12-19-2013, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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How about arresting everyone at a bar for future drunk driving?
Law enforcement may act if they have probable cause that a crime has been committed, is in the process of being committed, or will be committed sometime in the future. It has always been this way.
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