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Old 12-22-2013, 08:34 PM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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They are nor similar, and the laws in question are not bans, in fact they make no mention at all of gays.

Skin color is an inborn trait. Homosexuality is not.
Homosexuality is inborn, I did not choose to be gay, nor did two of my brothers, an uncle and a niece. Nor did any of my gay friends, none of us chose to be homosexual. Just because you do not accept that, does not mean being gay is not something one is born with. I cannot make myself straight anymore than I could make myself black. Any law that directly discourages same sex marriage is a ban, any law that directly associates marriage as exclusive to only a man and a woman is a ban. All will fall, all will fail in time, our constitution protects the freedoms of all of its citizens, not just straight ones.

 
Old 12-22-2013, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Homosexuality is inborn, I did not choose to be gay, nor did two of my brothers, an uncle and a niece. Nor did any of my gay friends, none of us chose to be homosexual. Just because you do not accept that, does not mean being gay is not something one is born with. I cannot make myself straight anymore than I could make myself black. Any law that directly discourages same sex marriage is a ban, any law that directly associates marriage as exclusive to only a man and a woman is a ban. All will fall, all will fail in time, our constitution protects the freedoms of all of its citizens, not just straight ones.
Where is the gay gene?
 
Old 12-22-2013, 08:39 PM
 
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Where is the gay gene?
In-born traits don't have to be genetic
 
Old 12-22-2013, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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In-born traits don't have to be genetic
Really? The gay army always shamelessly compares themselves to the black civil rights movement.

Are you saying that skin pigmentation is not genetic?
 
Old 12-22-2013, 08:45 PM
 
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Really? The gay army always shamelessly compares themselves to the black civil rights movement.

Are you saying that skin pigmentation is not genetic?
When are you going to get it through your head that the comparison is a legal one - the legal treatment of black people as compared to gay people - not a comparison between race and sexuality.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 09:05 PM
 
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Where is the gay gene?
What makes you think it has to be controlled by a singular gene to be genetic? Lots of genes, epigenes, hormones, etc. are involved. Sexuality is too complex to be controlled by a single gene. It's still determined in fetal development.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 09:21 PM
 
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Really? The gay army always shamelessly compares themselves to the black civil rights movement.

Are you saying that skin pigmentation is not genetic?
Your post makes no sense I don't even know how to respond to your word salad.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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When are you going to get it through your head that the comparison is a legal one - the legal treatment of black people as compared to gay people - not a comparison between race and sexuality.
There is absolutely zero comparison of the treatment of those groups.

To even suggest so is a slap in the face of the surviving people of the black civil rights movement, and pissing on the graves of those who gave their lives in support of that worthy cause.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 10:28 PM
 
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What makes you think it has to be controlled by a singular gene to be genetic? Lots of genes, epigenes, hormones, etc. are involved. Sexuality is too complex to be controlled by a single gene. It's still determined in fetal development.
You are talking with someone who thinks evolution is a myth and believes in Young Earth Creationism.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Your post makes no sense I don't even know how to respond to your word salad.
It makes perfect sense.

No gay gene exists. Correct?

Dragonslayer suggested that inborn traits do not have to be genetic.

The gay army compares itself to the black civil rights movement - shamelessly, Harrier might add.

If the two are comparable, and homosexuality is not a genetic trait, does that mean that proponents of gay marriage who compare themselves to the black civil rights activists, think that skin pigmentation is also not genetic?
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