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Old 12-20-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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The Supreme Court made clear earlier this year that it considers gay marriage a States' Rights issue. Otherwise it would have ruled on Proposition 8.
No it didn't. It ruled that the plaintiffs in Prop 8 didn't have standing to sue. If the court determines the plaintiffs have no standing to sue, then the court is duty bound not to hear the case and consider the merits.

 
Old 12-20-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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Poetic justice considering it was the Mormon Church that contributed the most money to banning same-sex marriage in California.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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Utah has some beautiful country to it, and it will be great to see equal marriage rights in such a great state with beauty and the wonderful people who live there.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 03:24 PM
 
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Utah? What what? Come again?
Had to check the calendar. Thought it might be April 1.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 03:30 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Poetic justice considering it was the Mormon Church that contributed the most money to banning same-sex marriage in California.
In before the inevitable claim that you're lying:

Classically Liberal: Mormon Church admits they lied about funding Prop 8.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 03:33 PM
 
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Nice! I bet those Mormons are freaking out right now, haha.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Nice! I bet those Mormons are freaking out right now, haha.
Most Mormons that I know personally don't seem to have a problem with same sex marriage. At least not that they vocalize.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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This is where the patchwork of same-sex marriage laws and rulings is going to get messy. What if the state appeals the ruling to the SCOTUS? SCOTUS decided that those wishing to overturn the California decision did not have standing to appeal in court. But if Utah appeals, it would actually be the State of Utah. You cannot say they do not have standing.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 03:55 PM
 
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Most Mormons that I know personally don't seem to have a problem with same sex marriage. At least not that they vocalize.
Yet the official church has been pretty clear on its position: Election Over, the Mormon Church Quietly Re-enters the Gay Marriage Fight | Mother Jones. That's all I have to go by. Until I see significant numbers of individual Mormons in print and other media denouncing official dogma and practice, I can only assume the church speaks for them.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 03:56 PM
 
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Please let's not equate someone from Utah with being Mormon, nor someone who is Mormon as being anti-gay marriage. Many Mormons feel legal gay marriage is fine though they may disapprove of religious gay marriage; some even have no problem with the latter.
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