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Old 01-01-2014, 10:58 AM
 
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While left wingers ignore the reason why things are costing too much to begin with.
Why are things costing too much? Is is because most wages haven't kept up with the cost of living?
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Old 01-01-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Where it's cold in winter.
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So either make employers hand out money or the government hand out money.
Either way you sound like you are for just "handing out money".
Now that's a good point. But, if the employer is supposed to hand out free money, with no return on his investment, he won't survive. The government will simply print more money, and it doesn't hurt them (it does hurt the country, however).
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Old 01-01-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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You do realize those people are called working employees so pay checks aren't considered handouts.
They are handouts if they are not producing revenue for the business of at least the value of their wages.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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I used to think Bill Maher was quite humorous, but now he just seems like a bitter douche who says a lot of very stupid things. He's like the Rush Limbaugh of the Looney Left. No problem facing society can be resolved within the 15 second quips these clown shoes come up with. That doesn't seem to stop the unwashed hordes from believing they can, though.
You are then in favor of not increasing the minimum wage to keep up with the cost of living but rather supplementing those employees with tax paid entitlements?

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Old 01-01-2014, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Where it's cold in winter.
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It seems they don't. That is the scary part. They have been brain-washed to be against themselves!!
What scares me is people like you, who are absolutely clueless about business and economics.

People are paid according to the value of the labor they perform. If they want higher pay, they must show they are worth more, by producing more. It's that simple. You cannot pay people more than they are worth.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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Why are things costing too much? Is is because most wages haven't kept up with the cost of living?
We spend upwards of $1 TRILLION a year on welfare programs.. Since the federal GDP is about $13T, thats almost 10% of the nations revenues..

Do you think 10% of the nations expenses being welfare, has an impact on the cost of living?
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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Why are things costing too much? Is is because most wages haven't kept up with the cost of living?
Where has there been an Inflation problem ?

Obama administration fails to address or acknowledge this problem.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:07 AM
 
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I have noticed that, it tends to be worse with the cons on this site which tend to best reflect far right wing politics.
This isn't "right wing politics." It's common sense. Would you pay someone more than they are capable of producing in revenue? You would be a fool.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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You bring nothing to the table but insults. First, state your position (insulting others is not a position). Then back up your position with facts and sources - not insults.

How can anyone have a discussion with someone whose only contribution to an issue is personal insults?
Facts like Bill Maher? How is anything he says a fact?

YOU are the one here whining about Walmart being "subsidized" by the taxpayer, but when I ask you how many would work there at such low wages without the subsidies, you never respond.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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Is this guy really supposed to be funny? This guy is clueless. Besides being a dirtbag.

I have an idea. Why doesn't Bill Maher higher some of these people and pay them, for example ... $300/hour?

The reason you cannot pay fast food workers more, is that this is unskilled labor, and it isn't worth more. If you paid them what some people think they should be paid (a "living wage" — much more in L.A. than in Cleveland) then you would have to raise the price of a Big Mac to the point that nobody would buy them. They would either spend their money at a nicer restaurant, or decide to eat out less often. Because, they do not have unlimited budgets either.

I wonder if Bill Maher knows anything at all about economics? It doesn't seem so.

What will happen if these chains are forced to pay more for the labor than it is worth in terms of productivity, they will find an alternative. No more clerks. Touch screen order systems. Fewer employees will be needed, and they can provide the same or better service.

In order to pay a worker $15/hour (as some propose) and they are currently being paid $8/hour, that person would have to add $7/hour in added value to the company's revenue. If they can't, the company would soon go out of business.

Liberals never think through these things. If $15/hour is great, why not $25 or $30? Or $300?
Maybe nobody would buy the Big Mac because almost everyone's wages (except the exorbitant increase for the top 2%) has not kept up with the cost of living.
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