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Old 01-07-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: On The Road Full Time RVing
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That's why I asked for clarification from the OP as to whom he was speaking of, duh. I read it and it isn't clear whether he was referring to legal immigrants or illegal aliens.

You may want to read the first post #1 which is mine and it says:

So many People complain about companies leaving the U.S.
and working poor people in 3rd world countries
for what they call slave wages.

It's talking about companies going overseas to foreign countries,
not about working legal or illegal people here in the U.S.A.

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Old 01-07-2014, 12:40 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So many People complain about companies leaving the U.S.
and working poor people in 3rd world countries for what they call slave wages.

Well those wages are far greater to those labors who do the work
because before this happened they had no work, and now they are prospering
with jobs they can live on and feed their families.

One woman was being interviewed who said she lived on a small farm
with here family, and had very little food to live on.

Now she has a job making very small wages under a dollar.
But now she has enough money to feed 8 family members back home.

These are not slave wages for them, which most Americans can't even eat on.

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In other news, the sun appeared in the eastern horizon this AM....................................
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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How/why did wages increase to the point corporations couldn't afford to operate domestically?

Was anyone else dumbstruck when salaries skyrocketed to the point of ''I can't believe they pay me this much for a job I have done for years..." I can't get over the COLA I get from one of my pension checks.

I am not complaining but remember when a brand new car of quality was under $10K and wonder how we got to this point.

As the government invents more and more ways things to spend money on, worker salaries have to go up to cover their TAX BURDEN in addition to their living expenses. Businessses don't pay taxes. PEOPLE pay taxes. All increased costs of production are directly transferred to the consumer. That is why cars are no longer $10K.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:44 PM
 
Location: On The Road Full Time RVing
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How/why did wages increase to the point corporations couldn't afford to operate domestically?

Was anyone else dumbstruck when salaries skyrocketed to the point of ''I can't believe they pay me this much for a job I have done for years..." I can't get over the COLA I get from one of my pension checks.

I am not complaining but remember when a brand new car of quality was under $10K and wonder how we got to this point.
So many people who are not satisified and want more and more.

I saw a woman on TV some years ago saying that she made $35.00 hour + full benifits
as a janitor sweeping floors, and looking for a raise.

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Old 01-07-2014, 12:45 PM
 
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As time goes on their wages ( China and others )
will increase just like it did in the U.S. and then Companies
and Corporations and the Rich will go somewhere else
where people will work for less money.
Been seeing this in China as of late. The Chinese are freaking out about it, but when they discuss it around me, they admit its what they did to us so they understand why I laugh at them.
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Old 01-07-2014, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Would you like us all to earn what slave laborers in third world countries earn?
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Yay! we can all work for slave labor rates, THATS SO AWESOME.
People in other States earning less than $3.00/hour can buy homes. They have cars, too.

The question isn't how can people in other States afford to buy a home on $1.35/hour, the question is why can't you do the same?

Too bad neither of you can wrap your brains around Reality™.

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Cost of living is much lower there so of course lower wages are fine for them. What does that have to do with anything?
Wow....someone here actually knows how to think critically and apply Critical Thinking Skills.

Maybe you could teach the other two.

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As time goes on their wages ( China and others )
will increase just like it did in the U.S. and then Companies
and Corperations and the Rich will go somewhere else
where people will work for less money.
Yes, I know.

That's how Economics works.

After China, they will go to Southwest Asia; then to Central Asia; and finally to sub-Saharan Africa.

Near the end of this century, the economical and cultural center of Earth will be right around India, and then ultimately in the [center of the] Indian Ocean.

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How/why did wages increase to the point corporations couldn't afford to operate domestically?
That's quite a long story actually.

You can dumb it down to your foreign policy.

Economically and historically...


Mircea
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:30 PM
 
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As the government invents more and more ways things to spend money on, worker salaries have to go up to cover their TAX BURDEN in addition to their living expenses. Businessses don't pay taxes. PEOPLE pay taxes. All increased costs of production are directly transferred to the consumer. That is why cars are no longer $10K.
Its called inflation, and most folks who have taken a economics class actually understand that small amounts of it are a good thing.
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So now we have Cons advocating that the US be more like 3rd World countries...I wonder how many people that advocate for this would be happy making 3rd World country pay?
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:44 PM
 
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That seems to be the crux it. How could people who developed these policies - from either side of it[those who wanted to help the poor in underdeveloped countries, & those who wanted to increase their bottom lines with cheap labor] NOT see that a global economy might raise the poor but not without lowering those doing OK? It's just math 5+1 / 2 = 3. Somebody comes up, somebody goes down. Those going down are lulled by falling prices on consumer goods, till they loose their jobs. Businesses like it till they start loosing their markets. A little bit of protectionism seems to be a good thing, but that container has left the dock.
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Yay! we can all work for slave labor rates, THATS SO AWESOME.

Really?
Why should just the rich Americans benefit from high wages? Are we more special than a rice farmer in SE Asia?
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