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Old 01-13-2014, 08:51 AM
 
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"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details."

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."

Albert Einstein

 
Old 01-13-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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I did not miss it.
Indeed, you did. I had to explain it to you. It flew right over your head.
 
Old 01-13-2014, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Indeed, you did. I had to explain it to you. It flew right over your head.
Wrong as usual. You never disappoint.
 
Old 01-13-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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Albert Einstein >

“We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library, whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different languages. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend but only dimly suspects.”
Quote mining can leave you with egg on your face if you don't know the views of the person you are quoting out of context:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio...lbert_Einstein
 
Old 01-13-2014, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details."

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."

Albert Einstein
There you go again... quote mining for the purposes of misrepresenting his actual views. Don't feel lonely. Religionists have been doing it for almost a century now. Here are a few that are a bit more explicit:

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The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.

Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954
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I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings.

- Albert Einstein, responding to Rabbi Herbert Goldstein's question "Do you believe in God?" quoted in: Has Science Found God?, by Victor J Stenger
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It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

- Albert Einstein, letter to an atheist (1954), quoted in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffman
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I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.

- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2
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It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.

- Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, November 9, 1930
Let me know if you need more.
 
Old 01-13-2014, 08:56 AM
 
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Einstein was a plagiarist, and Edison was an unscrupulous thief.
 
Old 01-13-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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Provide a link for your source then.
You can't necessarily link someone stating something.

Have you never read an anthology of quotes?
 
Old 01-13-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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But they all understood that something above them had created it all.
No. They didn't. Do you understand what quote mining is?
 
Old 01-13-2014, 08:59 AM
 
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Einstein was a plagiarist, and Edison was an unscrupulous thief.
Perhaps, but they understood that God created the universe.
 
Old 01-13-2014, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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You can't necessarily link someone stating something.
This would only be true if you stole the quote from a second hand source.

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Have you never read an anthology of quotes?
Of course. Both honest anthologies and dishonest ones... like the one you cut and pasted from.
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