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The evidence is in what you see everyday.
Don't hold your breath waiting for news articles on every single layoff all over the place.
And how do you know this is NOT happening ?
Do you have payroll stats to show that stores are not laying off and making due with less employees ?
I never said stores aren't laying off and making due with less employees... that's a totally different argument.
I said increasing the minimum wage doesn't result in layoffs... most studies show know ill effects from wage increases and it usually results in less turnover which saves employees money.
When you raise the minimum wage for your minimum wage workers, you have to raise the wages of everyone else who works for you.
The real question minimum wage workers, who are not students, should be asking themselves is "Why am I only capable of getting such a low wage job? Where did I screw up?"
By raising the minimum wage, we are using our judgement, our morality, our ethics... and deciding that if it's worth hiring a person, it's worth paying them X amount of dollars.
Because, you see, the free hand of the market don't have a brain, or judgment, ethics or morals.
And when we just rely on something as cold and harsh as that, we end up with things like child labor, and extreme poverty, or millions of people relying on the government.
Because we decided as a nation long ago that in a country of such wealth, letting people fall by the wayside is not a good option for anybody, rich or poor, but especially the middle class.
Wrong.
Because you as a liberal said "Anyone not worth X amount... is not allowed to work."
I never said stores aren't laying off and making due with less employees... that's a totally different argument.
I said increasing the minimum wage doesn't result in layoffs... most studies show know ill effects from wage increases and it usually results in less turnover which saves employees money.
Why? What is it that will keep them at minimum wage, but their own actions (or lack thereof)? What is it they face that is different from previous generations?
According to whom? Why would this be so? Can you point us to some facts, or credible industry source that would explain why this would be true?
One is not chained to a post in one community. There is a thing called an automobile. It has wheels, and can go for many miles to take a person to a job outside the community where one lives. I used to drive from where I once lived in in Mira Mesa (San Diego) all the way to Escondido to go to work. Another job I had was in San Marcos, an even further distance from my home.
One goes where he has to to find work. It may be necessary to move to another city or state. We are a mobile people. This isn't the former Soviet Union (yet).
Raise the minimum wage now!
Raising the minimum wage is not a solution to our problem. What we need is economic growth, and that isn't happening under this administration because of policies that have the economy hamstrung. Obamacare is probably the biggest factor right now. Dodd-Frank is another.
Tell your Congressman you want both repealed, because you need work.[/quote]
Obamacare is an attempt to answer a problem that has existed for decades - health care costs that are rising at double the rate of inflation and eating up more and more of a percentage of income of working families than ever before. Companies can't sustain either at that constant rate of rising premium costs. You're all so quick to piont out that min wage raises prices on goods, yet you completely ignore that an even BIGGER threat to rising prices is the rising premiums companies pay out to cover those in their employ!!!! Obamacare is one step toward joining the rest of the industrialized nations of the world of a more universal health care system.. because they have gotten it! We haven't - or at least the right wing hasn't yet.
Seriously.. what do they face.. ... Umm a country that doesn't PRODUCE anything because all the actual labor that allowed for upward mobility has moved offshore.. THAT'S what they face..
College degrees in order to GET a job that pays above minimum wage that basically is the equivelent to a mortgage payment to pay back.. That's what they face.
Do you expect someone making minimum wage to buy a car.. pfft.. LOL.. yeah.. that's a real hoot. PRice tage of cars - $15,000.....MINIMUM.. new.. yes.. used.. well you better be able to have money to fix that used car you COULD afford but most on minimum wage don't make enough for that little "luxury". They are lucky to pay rent.
The jobs aren't there.. the ONLY jobs being added are min wage jobs.
But, this can't go on for too long.. because soon the rich executives are going to realize that while they stagnated wages for everyone else while awarding themselves huge bonuses and salaries, they actually killed the buying power of those that buy the stuff/services they sell and eventually they wont' have money from revenue to continue to award themselves..
As for rasing the minimum wage.. you did that, it raises the wages for everyone else.. because certainly there are jobs that deserve higher pay than others. But every working individual deserves the dignitiy of fair pay to allow them to support themselves with their hard work. Right now, we don't have that in this country. Instead we have a faction that won't give them a living wage so that they don't have to rely on government welfare adn then villify them for said welfare.. You can't have it both ways.. you either pay a living wage or you pay taxes to subsidize the businesses that refuse to pay a wage.
Me.. I pay my people $12 - $15/hour... becuase I value them and want them to feel that their work is actually getting them somewhere!
Because we decided as a nation long ago that in a country of such wealth, letting people fall by the wayside is not a good option for anybody, rich or poor, but especially the middle class.
But yet you support policies, like raising the minimum wage, that push more people by the wayside..
I'd rather see people making wages, and working their way up to earn more, than sitting home on the unemployment line and collecting welfare..
THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS NOT MEANT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING A FAMILY.
These are the flawed arguments many people make when they tell us the minimum wage at $7.25 an hour is just fine where it is.
Yes, few people make- to the exact penny- the amount of the minimum wage. But an ever increasing number of Americans who are supporting themselves, or even a family, are making close to the minimum wage.
AND
While years ago the minimum wage (or close to it) was designed to be for entry level jobs or for kids working part time in High School, this is no longer the case. Now days millions of Americans will face a life time of working in jobs close to the minimum wage. Yes, some of them will get promoted and live the American dream but as a greater percent of American jobs pay under $9.00 an hour, there will be millions of new close to minimum wage workers taking their place.
AND:
Why we can say these minimum wage workers should get their act in gear and learn new skills, in many communities the only jobs available are low wage labor that pay close to the minimum wage. And with the flood of immigrants with poor language and job skills, employers whose business model uses easily exploitable low wage labor is booming.
How does someone who chose to take a job paying $8 an hour, now suddenly decide they are worth $10, for doing the same exact job?
No, the President decided they are worth $10 after 3 years.
THEY have decided they are worth $15/hour NOW based on the signs from their several one-day walkouts.
We also hear the absolutely ridiculous argument that increasing the minimum wage will help the economy, because those people will have more money to spend, and will go out and spend it, buying more products, and thus helping the local economy!
One has to be pretty gullible to buy that meme! But they expect us to swallow it. The Democrats think we are that stupid.
They raised minimum wage right before the last economic collapse.. Howd that work out again?
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