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Old 01-24-2014, 09:05 AM
 
Location: North America
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What's amazing is there are still fools out there who think it's about birth control.

Clue: It has nothing to do with birth control. Unbelievable there are still those who think it is.

Talk about being stuck..........

No, it's Huckabee's take on the government providing access to birth control, whether by insurance copay or by public health clinics. His take is that by doing so the governement is telling women that they can't control their libidos, so, here, we'll do it for you.

Women want their insurance companies to offer copays for their birth control pills/devices, just like they do with any other MEDICATION. It has nothing to do wih government controlling anything regarding their personal lives, or the government GIVING them anything. Birth control pills are used to treat a lot of conditions, not just preventing the fertilization of an egg by sperm.

And, for the record, women who take this medication for the prevention of pregnancy are being responsible, not sluts. I though the GOP was all about responsibility.

It's bull****. And the RNC and the usual suspects eat this kind of thing up and beg for seconds. Then they turn around and are confused on why this kind of rhetoric should bother people.

Keep going GOP, alienate as many people as you can.

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Old 01-24-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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It has nothing to do with wanting to control behavior. You are misguided.
Of course it has to do with wanting to control behavior.

"Birth control" prescriptions are prescribed for many health conditions. An employer's desire to prohibit the insurer from covering such prescriptions, regardless of why they are being prescribed, is about control. Just because it's wrapped up in a religious package with the employer beating on his chest about his freedoms, doesn't mean it's not about control. The religion itself is entrenched in the idea that men should be making decisions for women, that men have primacy, and therefore SHOULD control women.

Insurance policies cover routine prescriptions. "Birth control" medications, whether prescribed to prevent pregnancy, or prescribed to treat acne, or prescribed to treat endometriosis, or prescribed to address osteoporosis, or mood swings, or the host of other things they are prescribed for, are routine prescriptions. Insurance policies cover routine prescriptions, and routine prescriptions should be covered by insurance. Employers shouldn't be picking and choosing which routine care they like, and don't like. That's a matter that should remain between doctor and patient.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:08 AM
 
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The funny thing is.. if men were the ones that actually carried the babies and got pregnant.. we wouldn't be having this conversation. It would be covered 100% with no talk of men controlling their libidos..LOL
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:09 AM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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The funny thing is.. if men were the ones that actually carried the babies and got pregnant.. we wouldn't be having this conversation. It would be covered 100% with no talk of men controlling their libidos..LOL
And abortion clinics would be on every street corner.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:10 AM
 
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And abortion clinics would be on every street corner.
INdeed! LOL
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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Huckabee won't run, he is living larger than ever with his fox gig. He won't give that up.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:43 AM
 
Location: texas
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No, it's Huckabee's take on the government providing access to birth control, whether by insurance copay or by public health clinics. His take is that by doing so the governement is telling women that they can't control their libidos, so, here, we'll do it for you.

Women want their insurance companies to offer copays for their birth control pills/devices, just like they do with any other MEDICATION. It has nothing to do wih government controlling anything regarding their personal lives, or the government GIVING them anything. Birth control pills are used to treat a lot of conditions, not just preventing the fertilization of an egg by sperm.

And, for the record, women who take this medication for the prevention of pregnancy are being responsible, not sluts. I though the GOP was all about responsibility.

It's bull****. And the RNC and the usual suspects eat this kind of thing up and beg for seconds. Then they turn around and are confused on why this kind of rhetoric should bother people.

Keep going GOP, alienate as many people as you can.
Awesome points. Rev. Huckabee would have a hard time countering...
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:45 AM
 
Location: texas
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Huckabee won't run, he is living larger than ever with his fox gig. He won't give that up.
Huckabee will never run again. He had no support before, and would have even less now.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:03 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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LOL.. hardly crazy or offensive... I'm ROTFL...

drinking the "war on women" Koolaid.. no honey.. it's called observation skills.. it's called LISTENING to the horrendous CRAP that hte Republican party keeps saying about women and women's issues.. The war on women came about and became of thing because of the crap they speak of women and their stance on many policies regarding issues surrounding women (and hell , they just about offend anyone that isn't white and male!)

Further supported by the idiocracy of people on this board who fall hook line and sinker in line with that crap.

it's not idiotic if you live with a 1950's mentality.

what disturbs me, is people like YOU that listen to that crap. Someone of influence and some public power of persuasion actually makes YOU think your attitudes are well justified...

what about men controlling THEIR libido? Or are women having sex with themselves to get pregnant... Men aren't expected to control their "libido" or go with their urges.. but when a women does, she's less than, chastised?

The Hucklebees of the world are disgusting.. and anyone who actually supports their crap and says it's okay is just as disgusting, IMO. And hell.. in ALOT of woman's opinions.

Actually... i hope the Huckalbees of the party keep spewing this garbage. It will guarantee that we don't have a Republican President.. and will pretty much guarantee Hillary in 2016.
Your "observation skills" are clearly selective one way, and you are obviously angry and biased.

Regurgitating your libbie taking points is useless on me, and not something I haven't already heard a hundred times, being a woman. However, I'm intelligent enough to realize there are idiots on both sides, instead of looking at it in a strict party line way.

But whatever... keep on doing the "vote with your lady parts" and faux outrage over has-beens, if you're really convinced it's one of the country's most pressing issues.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:11 AM
 
Location: North America
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Your "observation skills" are clearly selective one way, and you are obviously angry and biased.

Regurgitating your libbie taking points is useless on me, and not something I haven't already heard a hundred times, being a woman. However, I'm intelligent enough to realize there are idiots on both sides, instead of looking at it in a strict party line way.

But whatever... keep on doing the "vote with your lady parts" and faux outrage over has-beens, if you're really convinced it's one of the country's most pressing issues.

Vote with your lady parts?? really?

It's important to note where this "has been" was speaking. A RNC committee luncheon. He didn't bully his way to the podium, he was invited.

Another point to be made is that the Dems didn't make it about the "lady parts", the only group that did that is the GOP. And therein lies the basic problem.

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