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I am always amused how little most people understand about libertarians, some think they are conservative, while others think they are liberal.
The truth is liberals and conservatives are equally guilty of creating tyranny in a country intended to be free. Read the article and gain some insight on the libertarian perspective.
I am always amused how little most people understand about libertarians, some think they are conservative, while others think they are liberal.
The truth is liberals and conservatives are equally guilty of creating tyranny in a country intended to be free. Read the article and gain some insight on the libertarian perspective.
Libertarians of today are not advocationg the same principles advocated by Libertarians back in the 80's.
Do you still advocate what Libertarians advocated did back in the 1980s? If no, why?
Do you advocate an open border where goods, jobs and persons are freely able to move across?
Seems to me there are different flavors of Libertarianism, no different than other platforms.
I get the no taxes, no foreign aid, no public education, no welfare including Social Security and Medicare, no minimum wage and labor laws and no safety laws.
This link leaves out abortion, borders and public land. As I understand it, the classic view is for no law prohibiting abortion and no border patrol or law that makes hiring undocumented workers a crime and that public land should be sold to the highest bidder and proceeds used to eliminate previously acquired debt and/or disbursed to the public as a dividend.
The nations that come closest to these ideals are desperately poor and commerce and conflicts are run and resolved by adolescent warlords who have a tendency to go to war against each other.
I am always amused how little most people understand about libertarians, some think they are conservative, while others think they are liberal.
The truth is liberals and conservatives are equally guilty of creating tyranny in a country intended to be free. Read the article and gain some insight on the libertarian perspective.
There are fiscal conservatives, religious conservatives, social conservatives, environmental conservatives and even Constitutional conservatives. Which one are you referring to, or are you just taking everything you disagree with from each group and lumping them all together into one group??
Seems to me there are different flavors of Libertarianism, no different than other platforms.
I get the no taxes, no foreign aid, no public education, no welfare including Social Security and Medicare, no minimum wage and labor laws and no safety laws.
This link leaves out abortion, borders and public land. As I understand it, the classic view is for no law prohibiting abortion and no border patrol or law that makes hiring undocumented workers a crime and that public land should be sold to the highest bidder and proceeds used to eliminate previously acquired debt and/or disbursed to the public as a dividend.
The nations that come closest to these ideals are desperately poor and commerce and conflicts are run and resolved by adolescent warlords who have a tendency to go to war against each other.
Am I missing something?
And do these libertarians believe in federalism, states rights or do they favor an all powerful federal government?
Libertarians of today are not advocationg the same principles advocated by Libertarians back in the 80's.
Do you still advocate what Libertarians advocated did back in the 1980s? If no, why?
Do you advocate an open border where goods, jobs and persons are freely able to move across?
Todays Libertartians are nothing of the sort.
The hippie movement of the 1960's was more closely associated with libertariainism than anything Sarah Palin tells you to believe.
Libertarians of today are not advocationg the same principles advocated by Libertarians back in the 80's.
Do you still advocate what Libertarians advocated did back in the 1980s? If no, why?
Do you advocate an open border where goods, jobs and persons are freely able to move across?
Actually, the Federal government only has two constitutional duties; to print money and to protect the borders. Ostensibly, our current administration does neither. I do not know of any Libertarian, presently, who advocates an open border.
If Libertarians of the 1980s did advocate this, good for them. The world is a very different place than it was in the 1980s and what happened more than 30 years ago really does not enter into the conversation, as far as I am concerned.
Todays Libertartians are nothing of the sort.
The hippie movement of the 1960's was more closely associated with libertariainism than anything Sarah Palin tells you to believe.
I never made any claim to what modern day liberatrians are. I have never spoken with Mrs. Palin so I dont know her ideas of Libertarianism. I dont know what hippy libertarians of the 60's advocated.
I made comments becasue the OP said that most do not know what Libertarians believe. My point being it may be bacause Libertarians have had major changes to the political philosophy in the past recent years.
Seems to me there are different flavors of Libertarianism, no different than other platforms.
I get the no taxes, no foreign aid, no public education, no welfare including Social Security and Medicare, no minimum wage and labor laws and no safety laws.
This link leaves out abortion, borders and public land. As I understand it, the classic view is for no law prohibiting abortion and no border patrol or law that makes hiring undocumented workers a crime and that public land should be sold to the highest bidder and proceeds used to eliminate previously acquired debt and/or disbursed to the public as a dividend.
The nations that come closest to these ideals are desperately poor and commerce and conflicts are run and resolved by adolescent warlords who have a tendency to go to war against each other.
Am I missing something?
That's anarchy, not libertarian.
You keep the money you pay in taxes and educate your children with it.
Schools become competitive and quality of education just might increase because they aren't dependent on government money anymore but the parent's money instead.
The governments (city, county, state, federal) currently take $.40-.60 of every dollar you earn.
Imagine if they only took $.10 instead ?
Here's some tidbits from their platform: Platform | Libertarian Party
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.
Government exists to protect the rights of every individual including life, liberty and property. Criminal laws should be limited to violation of the rights of others through force or fraud, or deliberate actions that place others involuntarily at significant risk of harm.
The only proper role of government in the economic realm is to protect property rights, adjudicate disputes, and provide a legal framework in which voluntary trade is protected. All efforts by government to redistribute wealth, or to control or manage trade, are improper in a free society.
Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government. Parents should have control of and responsibility for all funds expended for their children's education.
I never made any claim to what modern day liberatrians are. I have never spoken with Mrs. Palin so I dont know her ideas of Libertarianism. I dont know what hippy libertarians of the 60's advocated.
I made comments becasue the OP said that most do not know what Libertarians believe. My point being it may be bacause Libertarians have had major changes to the political philosophy in the past recent years.
ok - understood.
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