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Did you have response to AIHW.gov.au or did you just want to smack each other on the butt. Do you also need to have anecdotal evidence explained to you?
How about first hand experience? Does this has to be explain to as well?
How about infant mortality rate that suggest Australians receive better quality healthcare than Americans?
Oh, so its ok because it only affects black people?
Well, that's an interesting attempt at deflection.
Is it "ok" that cystic fibrosis affects far more Caucasians than it does Hispanics, blacks, or Asians? Is that the fault of the US healthcare system that Caucasians have much higher rates of this disease? Believe it or not, susceptibility to diseases and other things vary across populations.
Japan's infant mortality rate is 2.6, Australia's is 4.43. Why is Australia's IMR 70% higher than Japan when Australia has universal healthcare? Is Australia's healthcare system terrible and their infant mortality rate "pathetic"?
The top cause of infant mortality in the US is low birth weight/pre-term births.
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Some causes and risk factors for preterm births are well-established: smoking cigarettes or drinking during pregnancy, infections, high blood pressure or diabetes.
Does every ethnicity have equal risk of high blood pressure?
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Compared with non-Hispanic white adults, the risk of diagnosed diabetes was 18 percent higher among Asian Americans, 66 percent higher among Hispanics/Latinos, and 77 percent higher among non-Hispanic blacks. Among Hispanics/Latinos compared
with non-Hispanic white adults, the risk of diagnosed diabetes was about the same for Cuban Americans and for Central and South Americans, 87 percent higher for Mexican Americans, and 94 percent higher for Puerto Ricans.
Nope. How about high blood pressure?
According to the CDC, 45.7% of black women have high blood pressure, 31.3% of white women do, so black women are about 46% more likely to have higher blood pressure.
What about having twins?
Black women have a 33% higher chance of having twins than white women.
Twins are about 5 times more likely and triplets 10 times more likely to be born premature. Twins are about 7 times more likely and triplets about 25 times more likely to be born very premature. Twins are about 10x more likely, and triplets about 30x more likely, to be born with low birth weight.
Now, considering that black women have higher odds of having multiple births, and multiple births have much higher odds of resulting in premature babies/low birth weights, and low birth weights is the number 1 risk factor for infant mortality...
Since you attribute the differences between to the two countries to Australia having a universal healthcare system, let's see how Australian aboriginals fare...
So aboriginals have an infant mortality rate nearly twice as high as non-indigenous Australians? Why doesn't the universal healthcare system work for aboriginals?
Good thing they're such a small percentage of the population or Australia's infant mortality rate might look like the US'.
Canada, France, the US use the same methodology.... Still the US at the very end. Still, countries with Universal Healthcare systems are ahead of us. Sorry.
Not true.
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After all, not all countries define birth the same way. For example, in the United States, arrivals of all living infants are counted as births, but a few European countries (the Czech Republic, France, Ireland, the Netherlands, Norway and Poland) have more restrictive definitions.For example, France and the Netherlands report live births only if the infant weighs at least 500 grams — a little more than a pound — or were born at 22 weeks’ gestation or later.
How about first hand experience? Does this has to be explain to as well?
How about infant mortality rate that suggest Australians receive better quality healthcare than Americans?
Does Australia's lower diabetes rate suggest that Australians receive better quality health care too?
Is bad healthcare in the US responsible for the US having the highest, er...second highest (thanks Mexico) obesity rate in the world?
I guess I should cancel my gym membership and start eating fast food since only the healthcare system determines health outcomes.
I guess pregnant women should go ahead and drink, smoke, get fat, shoot heroin, work 60 hours a week, ride roller coasters, and hang out with their abusive boyfriends since it doesn't matter what they do, the only thing that determines infant mortality rate is what healthcare system their country has.
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Does Australia's lower diabetes rate suggest that Australians receive better quality health care too?
Could be. Some types of diabetes are treatable.
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Originally Posted by EugeneOnegin
I guess pregnant women should go ahead and drink, smoke, get fat, shoot heroin, work 60 hours a week, ride roller coasters, and hang out with their abusive boyfriends since it doesn't matter what they do, the only thing that determines infant mortality rate is what healthcare system their country has.
Nice try. Remember we are talking about the entire population here and individuals.
When you talk about the effect on the in entires populations, with a similar standard of living than quality healthcare is the primary determinant.
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Will be interesting to see if the raise to 16 AUS will cause the unemployment to increase. Hopefully not.
The increase was only 2.6% and only applies to people who aren't already covered by an award or contract. Most employees are covered by an award/contract. That award/contract will always be greater than the minimum wage. For example, a car parking officer (level one) - which I think you might agree is a low paying job - receives $655.40 a week (compared with $622.20 full time on minimum wage).
Thus the increase (which took place in July 2013) is only small and does not apply to the vast majority of employees. I doubt it would be a meaningful factor in any increase in unemployment.
Australia, like the UK, has an official state religion, Anglicanism, where as the US has a constitutional requirement that church and state be kept separate thus it is not at all surprising that we do not make religious holidays official government holidays where as states with official state religions do.
Australia, like the UK, has an official state religion, Anglicanism, where as the US has a constitutional requirement that church and state be kept separate thus it is not at all surprising that we do not make religious holidays official government holidays where as states with official state religions do.
Where do you get that from? Australia has no official state religion.
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