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Old 02-14-2014, 10:41 PM
 
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Bush campaigned against nation building in 2000. Then 9/11 happened, which made, a lot of people reconsider a lot of things. In hindsight Bush's decision to embrace nation-building after 9/11 looks like a bad choice. Iraq was a 25-year (or more) proposition, and US politics is not structured for 25 year projects.

W Bush miscalculated, but to compare that to Obama's constant and continual blaming of Bush is nonsensical.
In hindsight?

It looked like a bad choice THEN!

And I don't remember anything about a 25 year proposition. There was gonna be a GWB square in Baghdad...And they didn't mean in 25 years.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:52 PM
 
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"In 2008, Obama criticized George W. Bush for going around Congress with executive action"

That's okay. This is different, Obama can write all the orders he wants to. Besides, I'm sure it's some how Bush's fault that Obama is writing these orders anyway. It's obvious that you haven't attended re-education camp yet.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Wow really! He is actually critizing George Bush for trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress. And how he intends to REVERSE THAT!!!! HA what a F'ng JOKE!


A look at how times have changed: In 2008, then-Sen. Barack Obama held a town hall event in Lancaster, Pa., where he criticized President George W. Bush's use of executive power.

"You know I taught constitutional law for 10 years, I take the Constitution very seriously.

Flashback: In 2008, Obama criticized George W. Bush for going around Congress with executive action | WashingtonExaminer.com
That is the funniest thing I've read all day. What a lying tool.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:08 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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And we go on the internet and defend the lies.
also proof that those attacking Obama like you are hypocrites as well.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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This is an old story. It has been covered by other news outlets before.

When in Congress, they criticize the President, the President criticizes Congress. Every President does as the President before him/her.

NEW FLASH
You missed the point there hoss. He's a liar period. Post up the same quote from Presidents other than Obama.
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Old 02-15-2014, 01:56 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Wow really! He is actually critizing George Bush for trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress. And how he intends to REVERSE THAT!!!! HA what a F'ng JOKE!


A look at how times have changed: In 2008, then-Sen. Barack Obama held a town hall event in Lancaster, Pa., where he criticized President George W. Bush's use of executive power.

"You know I taught constitutional law for 10 years, I take the Constitution very seriously.

Flashback: In 2008, Obama criticized George W. Bush for going around Congress with executive action | WashingtonExaminer.com
Context is everything. There was a record amount of filibusters and obstruction by the right wing therefore in order to actually get anything passed he had to circumvent them.

Lastly, it is up to the courts to decide constitutionality. Have you ever thought Obama wouldn't have needed so many executive orders if Congress didn't put forth a record amount of filibusters?

.....you know cause and effect.
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Old 02-15-2014, 01:58 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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You missed the point there hoss. He's a liar period. Post up the same quote from Presidents other than Obama.
Apparently, some people are too ignorant to understand if the circumstances change then the actions should change.
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Old 02-15-2014, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Oh, my...

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Wow really! He is actually critizing George Bush for trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress. And how he intends to REVERSE THAT!!!! HA what a F'ng JOKE!


A look at how times have changed: In 2008, then-Sen. Barack Obama held a town hall event in Lancaster, Pa., where he criticized President George W. Bush's use of executive power.

"You know I taught constitutional law for 10 years, I take the Constitution very seriously.

Flashback: In 2008, Obama criticized George W. Bush for going around Congress with executive action | WashingtonExaminer.com


Whatever happens, don't let reality get in your way.

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Old 02-15-2014, 05:47 AM
 
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Obama is a world class hypocrite and his supporters don't care.

Hope and Change was complete BS and his supporters don't care, because it was never about principles, it was about being infatuated with how he read speeches from a teleprompter as they chanted in unison.

Remember when in 2008 he would do public financing, and this issue was near to his heart, until he realized that he could severely out raise McCain. $$$$ over principle.

Remember when in 2008 he said no special access for donors...well that has been blown to &$^(. $$$$ over principles.

Remember when in 2008 he said 5 day waiting period for public debate before he signed bills into law. Broke it on his first bill and most of his bills, he never meant to keep it - he just wanted to keep the sheep chanting in unison.

Remember in 2008 when he criticized McCain for running mostly dirty ads, except he was running nearly the same percentage of dirty ads - but twice as many dirty ads as he had more money --- Hello hypocrisy!

Remember in 2008 when he criticized John Edwards for having a PAC that was running dirty ads (ads that pointed out how he factually lied is dirty supposedly)...Obama said that everyone knows that you can in fact make comments to control your PAC....flash forward to 2012, Obama's largest PAC is straight up lying about Romney, when confronted on it, Obama says everyone knows you can't do anything to stop your PAC. Obama is BS over principle.

If you like your plan, your doctor you can keep it...he knew that was BS, but votes over being honest...that is the Obama way.

etc...

Obama supporters will go hysterical over this well sourced list of 557 examples of his lying, lawbreaking, corruption, cronyism, etc. | Dan from Squirrel Hill's Blog
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Old 02-15-2014, 05:51 AM
 
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Not who you were talking too, but that is ridiculous.

#1 Obama promised not to do this and said it was illegal and now he is doing it... Let me guess, you had a thrill up your leg and started chanting in unison with others when Obama criticized Bush for doing it and called it illegal...and now you look the other way that Obama is doing it.

#2 There are many types of executive orders - some more mundane, some with precedent, and some in uncharted territories. You know Obama is expanding executive orders into uncharted territories something he said he wouldn't do - so why are you fine with it?
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