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I looked and I even calculated all the taxes and fees I pay. 35% of my income goes to all sorts of taxes. Counting medical insurance premiums me and my employer pay it's close to 45%, counting some unlucky years I have to use overpriced medical services, it's way more than 45%. I spoke to a Norwegians, Sweedes and Germans. They pay 50% in taxes +/-, they have universal health care, very affordable higher education, ridiculously long vacations, paid 1 year maternity leave, etc., etc., etc., etc. And yes, they have unemployed, permanently unemployable welfare class, they pay for medical care of illegal immigrants too. This constant bashing of the poor and unemployed who supposedly ate my cake is ridiculous at best. You know very well where it all flows and who gets lion' share of the loot, and, no, it's not bottom 40% of Americans who collectively own 1% of nation' wealth and 3% of nation' income (+/-).
To become a "producer" you need to accomplish a few "minor" things first, don't you think? Like, denying "non producers" access to resources, land, shelter, etc., etc. they need to survive. Dispossession and denial the right to exist is a must for the employment based economies that run on behalf of a few one up the food chain. I don't want to support able bodied men or women either, if corporations and owners of means have no use for their labor, available meaningful labor should be split among all the people. Contrary to the popular myths, modern work place is extremely dumbed down and deskilled, it takes very little time to train a semi-intelligent body to do most of the jobs out there. I would rather have my work hours cut to accommodate those without jobs than to work obscene amount of hours and pay for their survival basics. I believe that right to exist (i.e. a right for work in our "civilized" case) is a basic human right, no stinking "free" market and its stakeholders can deny it.
LOL!!!
Trying to set the rules to live by political dogma, rather than reality.
You actually think that stealing from the producers is how everyone becomes prosperous. The gullibility one must have to believe this is mind blowing.
I am sure plenty of right wingers would love to see low wage jobs returning to the US where corporations can just exploit Americans
You explain how you force someone to get into business to lose money.
Please.
Then I'll explain how you end an economy.
Until you comprehend that profits must be made, and that the incentive of profits is what makes EVERYTHING work (and removing it will mean NOTHING WORKS), then you have no possibility of grasping the utter stupidity of everything you say.
There can be no discussion then on dropping minimum wage until the Banksters on Wall Street and Captains of Industry's are booted out of the government along with their lobbyists on the outside.
There can be no discussion then on dropping minimum wage until the Banksters on Wall Street and Captains of Industry's are booted out of the government along with their lobbyists on the outside.
If we restore the integrity of our federal government, there will be no minimum wage set by it, nor will there be any industry controlling it or us. And by integrity, I mean the rule of law - that being the Constitution.
don't let the government call the shots, and the problem is solved.
And the Government and their cronies would put an end to this for what reason?
The Average American does not stand a chance in putting in anyone to put a stop to this when you practically need to be one of the top elite or backed by the elite to get in.
And the Government and their cronies would put an end to this for what reason?
What on earth are you asking?
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The Average American does not stand a chance in putting in anyone to put a stop to this when you practically need to be one of the top elite or backed by the elite to get in.
They're not "cheaper". You don't comprehend the difference between cost and price.
Nope, it's you don't comprehend that you can get done $12,000 surgery for as little as $1000 in a private European clinics without you having European insurance and stuff. You defending outrageous rip offs American medical profession got accustomed to has no basis in the rational thought.
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No, they do not. They ration it very stringently because they don't have the money to pay for it. They are broke and rationing care.
Really, last time I was waiting for more than 1 month to see fake smile of a doctor and listen bunch of banalities for hefty fee. Does it mean that private American medical biz is rationing care?
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Since you don't comprehend how or why there is a fictional $20 band-aid, it's impossible for you to comprehend any answer, since it will not be in your intellectual universe.
Since you don't comprehend that I can sell you a bottle of water for $10,000 if you are dying of thirst in desert, you will never understand why medical biz can charge obscene fees you defend. Because they can, because your life and well being is at stake. It's not a matter of Economics 101, even though government granted medical monopolies enable medical racket to great extent.
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I'm intimately aquainted with them. And you're entirely wrong.
Last time I was to an emergency room (empty, EMPTY, no lines of illegals and unemployed bums waiting for care), we spent 45 secons with a nurse, 30 seconds with a doctor on duty (it's a realistic estimates, it's not a joke) and 30 MINUTES with a billing person. $1,200 total bill, not even an aspirin pill with that. Magic of free market care. Last time I was stupid enough to order a basic blood test at a "community" rip off hospital, they charged me $1,100 for a test LabCorp would do for $60. Have a shot on it, tell me that illegals are behind this outrageous mark up.
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It is an EMERGENCY room, very specialized and very costly to maintain.
You know they have emergency rooms around the world, even in the poorer countries. Setting a broken arm doesn't take lots of super-specialized equipment nor it costs an arm and leg, or anything for that matter. Those countries can afford that, not here. If medical biz can't provide basic emergency services, third world can provide, the services requiring minimum equipment at a reasonable price, if they can't puncture a vein for less than $20 maybe they are in the wrong line of business, racket would suit them so much more.
You said don't let them (government) call the shots.
This is how it works in this country.
Big Banks and Mega Corporations buy politicians to serve them and/or put them in office.
They write their own policies to hand off to their bought and paid for politicians.
The politicians pass the policies to see what is in them since they have already been paid upfront.
Why do you think the Bankers, Heads of Corporations and their puppet politicians would put a stop to this lucrative arrangement?
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