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Old 02-26-2014, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Originally Posted by Chin_Muzik_NJ View Post
Exactly, even imagination couldn't knock down the building.
Imagination didn't knock down anything.

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Originally Posted by Chin_Muzik_NJ
Not NIST's, nor yours.
Then it is a good thing that neither NIST nor I are imagining it.

 
Old 02-26-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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DOES a "normal" steel framed building have fuel lines running through it?

Would anybody suggest that it never dawned on the engineers that a building, with fuel lines distributed throughout, could be susceptible to combustion?

Pretty far reaching, I know.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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DOES a "normal" steel framed building have fuel lines running through it?
Almost every building is different.

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Would anybody suggest that it never dawned on the engineers that a building, with fuel lines distributed throughout, could be susceptible to combustion?
No. They wouldn't.

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Pretty far reaching, I know.
What does that even mean?
 
Old 02-26-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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Because it was the first ever steel framed building that experienced what WTC7 experienced that day.

Duh.

incorrect!

the former Duetsche Bank building experienced extremely similar circumstances, on the same day no less, in the same vicinity; yet didn't fall

imagine that...
 
Old 02-26-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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Almost every building is different.
Why are you saying this? Again...


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No. They wouldn't.
Great!!! Now get that memo to workingclasshero.

And also, remember how.the fire code AND the engineers considered the worst case scenario of that building being engulfed in flames. And being that NIST and civil.engineers are both well versed on the properties of both flame and steel, totally could have projected a collapse in any design flaw.


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What does that even mean?
"Considering fuel pipes were run throughout the building, would it be far reaching to assume the engineers and local authorities knew the building could turn into a towering inferno"

Wasn't very hard to glean.

Can we now conclude that you are an engineer only deep within the recesses of your own brain?
 
Old 02-26-2014, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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incorrect!

the former Duetsche Bank building experienced extremely similar circumstances, on the same day no less, in the same vicinity; yet didn't fall

imagine that...
totally different construction

imagine that
 
Old 02-26-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: midwest
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So how did he explain the north tower coming down in 25 seconds without knowing the distribution of mass? But we still do ot have that data today.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Are you saying it did not come down in 25 seconds or that the distribution of mass would not have anything to do with collapse time?

psik
 
Old 02-26-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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first ever???








The McCormick Place fire "is significant because it illustrates the fact that steel-frame buildings can collapse as a result of exposure to fire. This is true for all types of construction materials, not only steel." wrote Robert Berhinig, associate manager of UL's Fire Protection Division and a registered professional engineer.

you 100% acceptors can't have it both ways.

the 'official' report that you all believe is flawless and beyond sterling in its unquestionability, stated that WTC-7 was the first building of its kind to be brought down by fire...


try again!
 
Old 02-26-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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totally different construction

imagine that

well if poor construction (known), and consequent insurance fraud, is your answer; then fine.

at least your offering up some kind of possibility, instead of just attacking those who have questions
 
Old 02-26-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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you 100% acceptors can't have it both ways.

the 'official' report that you all believe is flawless and beyond sterling in its unquestionability, stated that WTC-7 was the first building of its kind to be brought down by fire...


try again!
you said it this time...OF ITS KIND

last time you said STEEL FRAMED BUILDING


get your story straight
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