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I think that many question if "Snowden" himself is a real story or a made up story.
There certainly are some interesting observations with that whole scenario that can make one pause. However, reality isn't black and white. There are many dimensions and angles to consider.
Point number two seems very realistic to me. I do believe that there are paid disinformation agents who participate in online forums and social media who work hard to steer conversations in desired directions and away from undesireable topics or outcomes. That one does not surprise me. The first objective though is far more sinister as it's tactics are much more covert and dangerous. It's almost like internet gangstalking.
A few years ago there were posts in threads here on CD that posed the idea that many of the liberals here were paid trolls. They were on CD all day, every day, making countless posts in countless threads in the political forum. Most of them were very adept with how they directed their insults and vitriol, carefully avoiding personal insults. Once the thread drifted to the possibility that A, B and C and X, Y and Z were paid liberal trolls, more often than not, these threads were either closed or deleted completely. No idea if any of them are still here, either under their old names or new ones. Nevertheless, the cat is out of the bag now, thanks to Edward Snowden.
You do realize that things like this are not about politics right? They're about policy, and opposing governments or movements. If anything you'd see more of these sorts of things in negative attacks, not positive comments. Positives don't make everyone go rah rah, appealing to negative emotions is FAR more effective. Look at the political ads-vast majority of them are attack ads. Because those work.
And its hardly just the government doing this, Im 100% sure that the GOP and DNC fund this sort of thing.
No matter what side of the political spectrum you fall on, this should alarm you. It reminds me of the old Cointelpro stuff the FBI used to pull. Nasty stuff. It seems history may be repeating.
No matter what side of the political spectrum you fall on, this should alarm you. It reminds me of the old Cointelpro stuff the FBI used to pull. Nasty stuff. It seems history may be repeating.
I think that many question if "Snowden" himself is a real story or a made up story.
I personally think Snowden was just another 20-something idiot angling for a reality TV gig. He got way over his head when he realized the government wasn't just going to let him walk after spilling the "secrets" he managed to uncover at his low-level contract job within the NSA.
I wonder how he is loving cabbage and borscht compared to the cushy life I am sure he was enjoying in the U.S. on his $200,000/yr salary.
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The Russians can now make up any lie or propaganda they want, and claim Snowden told them
True. Any further credibility he may have carried vanished the moment he embraced Putin's Russia.
Here on this very forum, there's a thread where a bunch of people are advancing the silliest arguments you ever heard, pretending there is reason to believe the the 9/11 attacks were a hoax, perpetrated by the U.S. government itself, who blew up the World Trade Center and killed 3,000 people.
They made the "case" against the government sound so laughable and silly, that there's no way anyone would ever believe it.
They were clearly agents planted by the government, assigned to imitate "9/11 truthers" and make the truthers look like a bunch of complete fruitcakes.
And they succeeded 100%.
We have some that always show up on birther threads, at least one of which I really believe is a government disinformation specialist.
Mr. Federal Judge: we have some doctored photos of you posing in front of gay men. If you don't want them circulated, we could use your help in an upcoming case...
We have some that always show up on birther threads, at least one of which I really believe is a government disinformation specialist.
am i that lucky one?
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