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Old 03-11-2014, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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[quote=Liberal01;33825327]This country was founded as an ultra-progressive state, rejecting monarchy, titles, privileged nobility and state religion while embracing democracy, equality and the rule of law. We were the beacon of progress among all other nations. Our constitution served as an example for all progressive states in the world.

200 years later we are a dinosaur amongst the industrialized countries of the world, without universal healthcare coverage for all citizens or labor laws guaranteeing maternity leaves or even a lunch break for all employed.
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Most " developed" nations rewrote their constitutions, especially after WW2. No two are alike.

It is not practical for a nation with 315 million to have a constitution similar to that of a nation with the population of Rhode Island.

In the U.S., labor is a contract between an employer and employee. Lunch breaks laws for employees paid by the hour, defer to the state. Regardless of the absence of law, most employers give their employees a lunch break.

 
Old 03-11-2014, 04:54 PM
 
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This country was founded as an ultra-progressive state, rejecting monarchy, titles, privileged nobility and state religion while embracing democracy, equality and the rule of law. We were the beacon of progress among all other nations. Our constitution served as an example for all progressive states in the world.

200 years later we are a dinosaur amongst the industrialized countries of the world, without universal healthcare coverage for all citizens or labor laws guaranteeing maternity leaves or even a lunch break for all employed.
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Most " developed" nations rewrote their constitutions, especially after WW2. No two are alike.

It is not practical for a nation with 315 million to have a constitution similar to that of a nation with the population of Rhode Island.

In the U.S., labor is a contract between an employer and employee. Lunch breaks laws for employees paid by the hour, defer to the state. Regardless of the absence of law, most employers give their employees a lunch break.
Nobody would work at a place that didn't give a lunch break. lol

Why would you.............go get another job. Part of freedom we still have you can go get another job where you get lunch breaks. It is funny reading these things where folks think they are locked into something. It aint russia yet...............yet.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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This country was founded as an ultra-progressive state, rejecting monarchy, titles, privileged nobility and state religion while embracing democracy, equality and the rule of law. We were the beacon of progress among all other nations. Our constitution served as an example for all progressive states in the world.

200 years later we are a dinosaur amongst the industrialized countries of the world, without universal healthcare coverage for all citizens or labor laws guaranteeing maternity leaves or even a lunch break for all employed.
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Most " developed" nations rewrote their constitutions, especially after WW2. No two are alike.

It is not practical for a nation with 315 million to have a constitution similar to that of a nation with the population of Rhode Island.

In the U.S., labor is a contract between an employer and employee. Lunch breaks laws for employees paid by the hour, defer to the state. Regardless of the absence of law, most employers give their employees a lunch break.
But your maternity leave policies are abhorrent.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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If you can't afford medical care you sign up for medicaid. How hard is this for you??
 
Old 03-11-2014, 04:57 PM
 
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But your maternity leave policies are abhorrent.
I agree. Men should get the same time.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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I agree. Men should get the same time.
Up here, they do.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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This country was founded as an ultra-progressive state, rejecting monarchy, titles, privileged nobility and state religion while embracing democracy, equality and the rule of law. We were the beacon of progress among all other nations. Our constitution served as an example for all progressive states in the world.

200 years later we are a dinosaur amongst the industrialized countries of the world, without universal healthcare coverage for all citizens or labor laws guaranteeing maternity leaves or even a lunch break for all employed.

From ultra-progressive we moved to ultra-conservative. What went wrong? When and how?
Capitalism run amok. It was only a matter go time until one of the two established parties was bought and paid for, and now every Republican's vote has been purchased by wealthy corporate interests. This same party also has 5 members of the United States Supreme Court doing their bidding and overturning election laws that limited campaign contributions, making it now a free for all affair of whoever pays the most gets the most Congressional representation.

You can thank Republicans for making this country an oligarchy.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 05:55 PM
 
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This country was founded as an ultra-progressive state, rejecting monarchy, titles, privileged nobility and state religion while embracing democracy, equality and the rule of law. We were the beacon of progress among all other nations. Our constitution served as an example for all progressive states in the world.

200 years later we are a dinosaur amongst the industrialized countries of the world, without universal healthcare coverage for all citizens or labor laws guaranteeing maternity leaves or even a lunch break for all employed.

From ultra-progressive we moved to ultra-conservative. What went wrong? When and how?
The US didn't have all that socialist crap back at its founding, why have all that socialist crap now?
 
Old 03-11-2014, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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This country was founded as an ultra-progressive state, rejecting monarchy, titles, privileged nobility and state religion while embracing democracy, equality and the rule of law. We were the beacon of progress among all other nations. Our constitution served as an example for all progressive states in the world.

200 years later we are a dinosaur amongst the industrialized countries of the world, without universal healthcare coverage for all citizens or labor laws guaranteeing maternity leaves or even a lunch break for all employed.

From ultra-progressive we moved to ultra-conservative. What went wrong? When and how?
It's funny you say that because progressives don't believe in the rule of law.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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The topic is how an ultra progressive country like the US regressed into a bastion of ultra-conservatism.
Your premise is not wrong. The US has never been an ultra progressive country.
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