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Old 03-12-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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On the other hand, since tesla owes its very survival to politicians that hand it taxpayer money, they in turn must dance to their whims.
In defense of Tesla, they've been in business long before Obama came along. And they are American innovators. Their battery is superior to any car out there. A fast sporty car that can drive 300 miles or so before needing a charge. The charge takes about 45 minutes---just brilliant. Also they are going to continue to manufacture in the states. Also prices are dropping and an affordable all electric tesla will be on the market soon. What's not to like?
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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Another example on how Republicans aren't anymore free market than Democrats and in many ways they are even more restrictive. Whatever happened to supporting free markets?!
What is TESLA?
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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Tesla is successfully exporting to Europe and the world. Shouldn't we help this great American innovator instead of letting the franchise system milk them till they die? When was the last time the dealerships invented anything usefull other than $500 pinstripes ?




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In defense of Tesla, they've been in business long before Obama came along. And they are American innovators. Their battery is superior to any car out there. A fast sporty car that can drive 300 miles or so before needing a charge. The charge takes about 45 minutes---just brilliant. Also they are going to continue to manufacture in the states. Also prices are dropping and an affordable all electric tesla will be on the market soon. What's not to like?
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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To a much less degree as shown by who the corporate interests give their money to. Also, no, I sure don't give them a free pass; that exists only in your own mind.
really? because i only ever note you hammering republicans, never even suggesting the democrats have a hand in doing the exact same things, often times to an equal or greater degree.

as for selling direct to the consumer, that would be nice if there was a plan in place to deal with warranty issues, trade in issues, etc.
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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The reasons for the law in Ford or GM's case have been noted. I will also add that its a huge consumer protection law. If dealers decide to quit servicing these cars because the manufacturer undercuts them they are in a world of hurt.
How does this protect a consumer????


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But your complaint was about middlemen making a profit. As noted that is a very common business model. GM cant afford to open 600 outlets to replace dealers. (Or whatever the number is)l
But why, unlike in case of electronics or food there are laws forcing this model on the market place?

I though you were opposed to regulations and government interference in business so why, all of a sudden, you support this obvious one?

If GM wants to open 600 dealerships let the do it. Why not?
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:21 PM
 
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In defense of Tesla, they've been in business long before Obama came along. And they are American innovators. Their battery is superior to any car out there. A fast sporty car that can drive 300 miles or so before needing a charge. The charge takes about 45 minutes---just brilliant. Also they are going to continue to manufacture in the states. Also prices are dropping and an affordable all electric tesla will be on the market soon. What's not to like?
Whats not to like? The fact that the government has propped them up with taxpayer money because consumers dont want their product.
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:23 PM
 
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Whats not to like? The fact that the government has propped them up with taxpayer money because consumers dont want their product.
So you basically dislike all the Automotive companies in America is what you're saying hmm?
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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But consumers love these carse, tesla can't make enough off them... Where I live tesla is the new Mercedes 550, everybody, who can afford it, wants one.



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Whats not to like? The fact that the government has propped them up with taxpayer money because consumers dont want their product.

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Old 03-12-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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Whats not to like? The fact that the government has propped them up with taxpayer money because consumers dont want their product.
I don't agree. Tesla has developed a very good product. Don't confuse Tesla with that solar panel company that went under because they could not compete with China. Or that tired car "the Volt" This is very different.
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:35 PM
 
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What is TESLA?

The premier electric car company in the world.

Tesla Motors | Premium Electric Vehicles
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