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Old 03-22-2014, 04:52 AM
 
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Serious question. They claim to be the voice for the poor and oppressed, yet many of the biggest voices are swimming in money. Why? They cant spend all of that money. Why let it sit when you can cut a check an extra check to the government or give it to the poor?

Or is the point really that its other peoples money you want to demonize and be used?

IMO, its not about their bs "cause" at all. Its about money and power. They dont give a damn about the causes they preach of, they care about themselves. If they really, really believed a lot of the crap they say, they would feel guilty about having so much money and would give most of their wealth away and live more middle class like. But they wont, they're hypocritical deceivers.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:58 AM
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Location: Florida
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Social conscience isn't a solo sport. It's a group venture.

Beyond that: http://givingpledge.org/

Selected highlights:
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MANOJ BHARGAVA

“Service to others seems the only intelligent choice for the use of wealth. The other choices especially personal consumption, seem either useless or harmful.”
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JOYCE AND BILL CUMMINGS

“Having already pledged privately years ago to donate 90 percent of our wealth to charity, we now publicly take the Giving Pledge in the hope that, with every new member, the Association will gain momentum and provide encouragement to others who have the capacity to give in very meaningful ways.”
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JON AND KAREN HUNTSMAN

“It has been clear to me since my earliest childhood memories that my reason for being was to help others.”
Such gestures are wonderful. However, reversing the corruption done to society from the right-wing's egoistic avarice that has affected our nation for the last generation will take more than such gestures. It will take efforts by society to direct how resources are spent. I can invite one person to my table for dinner. Or together with the members of my church we can invite three times as many of us to share a meal together. Or together with everyone in our state we can ensure ten times as many of us won't go hungry. And so on.

The petulant implicit demand not to be part of society and contribute to its efforts to protect its most vulnerable members is a child's attitude, worthy only of lessons not regard.

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Old 03-22-2014, 06:12 AM
 
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Social conscience isn't a solo sport. It's a group venture.

Beyond that: The Giving Pledge :: Pledger Profiles

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Such gestures are wonderful. However, reversing the corruption done to society from the right-wing's egoistic avarice that has affected our nation for the last generation will take more than such gestures. It will take efforts by society to direct how resources are spent. I can invite one person to my table for dinner. Or together with the members of my church we can invite three times as many of us to share a meal together. Or together with everyone in our state we can ensure ten times as many of us won't go hungry. And so on.

The petulant implicit demand not to be part of society and contribute to its efforts to protect its most vulnerable members is a child's attitude, worthy only of lessons not regard.
In other words, steal from others to fund your selfish cause.

The rest of the post is rambling nonsense.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:19 AM
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Location: Florida
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In other words, steal from others to fund your selfish cause.
Typical Frank evasion of civic responsibility. Society is everyone's cause. But I don't expect someone of your political bent to admit their obligations to society.

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The rest of the post is rambling nonsense.
In other words, even your regular set of evasion wouldn't fit with the moral repudiation of what you prefer, implicit in that portion of my posting.

Typical Frank.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It has been documented over and over, that Conservatives give 75% more to charity every year, than the opposite Progressive voter.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:45 AM
 
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Why should they give their money away, its their money,they earned it, why don't the poor give their money away too. Same principal .sound like you just want something for free, more welfare. Get a job earn your own money.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:45 AM
 
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Typical Frank evasion of civic responsibility. Society is everyone's cause. But I don't expect someone of your political bent to admit their obligations to society.

In other words, even your regular set of evasion wouldn't fit with the moral repudiation of what you prefer, implicit in that portion of my posting.

Typical Frank.
Stealing from others to give to your selfish cause is not civic responsibility, its theft. Charity is voluntary.
The rest of your post is sidebar gibberish.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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It has been documented over and over, that Conservatives give 75% more to charity every year, than the opposite Progressive voter.

Progressives only give when they can take credit and to make themselves look good. How many in Hollywood give in private without making a media mockery out of it?
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:50 AM
 
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They can give your money away; why would they part with their dough?

It's always easy to be generous with other peoples money after all.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Social conscience isn't a solo sport. It's a group venture.

Beyond that: The Giving Pledge :: Pledger Profiles

Selected highlights:




Such gestures are wonderful. However, reversing the corruption done to society from the right-wing's egoistic avarice that has affected our nation for the last generation will take more than such gestures. It will take efforts by society to direct how resources are spent. I can invite one person to my table for dinner. Or together with the members of my church we can invite three times as many of us to share a meal together. Or together with everyone in our state we can ensure ten times as many of us won't go hungry. And so on.

The petulant implicit demand not to be part of society and contribute to its efforts to protect its most vulnerable members is a child's attitude, worthy only of lessons not regard.

In other words, your ideas are so good they have to be mandatory.

"Do as we say, not as we do"

Repudiate that where the sun don't shine.
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