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Interesting trivia: The influenza commonly known as the Spanish Flu of 1918 was probably an equine (horse) flu that originated at Fort Riley in Kansas. Infected soldiers carried it to Europe during WWI.
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So your nephew is the only one ever cured by this "detox" program? Has a case report been published?
Why, when parents became afraid of vaccines and stopped using them, did autism rates not go down? Why do kids who have never been vaccinated have autism? Why aren't all vaccinated kids autistic?
The questions reveal your intention to deceive, and your well established tactic of being coy.
The truth is, there has been no massive cessation of vaccination rates, and you know it. Furthermore, the number of vaccines being given has steadily risen, as more are added to the childhood schedule. Under those circumstances, the lack of reduction in reported cases is another diversion ... a diversion away from the more disturbing reality that the rates are increasing dramatically, and correlate to the the increases in the amounts of vaccines being used now, compared to decades ago.
But really suzy, you don't really expect me to let you get away with these self serving little rhetorical questions, like "if vaccines cause autism, why aren't all vaccinated children autistic". I have already addressed that question, and of course you already know the answer. It's a really dumb question. But, back at you .... why, if cigarette smoking causes lung cancer, why do all cigarette smokers not get lung cancer? Perhaps even better, why do more non smokers get lung cancer than do cigarette smokers?
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And, yes, the number of kids who do not respond to "detox" is vitally important. If 100 children with autism undergo "detox" and only one gets better, the conclusion should be that perhaps the one who got better did not have autism. Heavy metal poisoning and autism are not the same thing.
At the moment, you are attempting to prove a negative, which is impossible, and particularly transparent given the fact that such detoxification therapies are not being used by mainstream medicine, for which the position is that such therapy is useless, because the cause is not toxicity. So your hypothetical 1% success rate, which implies a 99% failure rate is nonsense you've pulled from your rear end.
The reason "detox" is not a mainstream treatment for autism is because it does not work. If it worked, it would be used, just as it is used to treat lead poisoning.
There is no Big Pharma conspiracy at all.
Now we see ONE EXAMPLE of detoxification failing to correct the condition. Placed side by side with my example, we have a 50% success rate, compared to your hypothetical 99% failure rate.
There are a number of fallacies in your position.
1) it is not my contention that there is a singlular cause of autistic symptoms, so I don't expect a single solution to every case. As with most disease, there can be multiple causes, which may require more than one solution. Of course, the possibility always exists that you correctly diagnose the disease, and employ the proper therapy, yet fail due to the amount of damage which can be irreversible
2) since when did the medical establishment achieve a 100% cure rate for anything? Given the obvious differences between individuals, evidenced by the fact that some children become autistic, and others not, so to would you expect variance in response to therapies. And why would you think it reasonable to hold one therapy to a higher standard than another?
3) while there are few if any examples of medical treatments achieving universal success, when it comes to autism, conventional medicine has offered nothing ... zip ... zilch ... natta! On the other hand, alternative treatments utilizing detoxification therapies have enjoyed a great deal of success, and one need only investigate this for your own verification. While these stories may be anecdotal from your perspective, they match the success I have personally witnessed.
So, at the end of the day, mainstream conventional wisdom rejects the toxicity cause of autism, and subsequently refuses to utilize detox protocols in leiu of what? Doing nothing?
There is a dirty little secret being obfuscated with regard to the cause of increases in autism rates. Whether vaccines are the primary suspect, or just a contributing factor, the line in the sand has already been drawn, and the position set in concrete. Any suggestion that heavy metal toxicity is remotely associated with the onset of autism will be vigorously denied, down to the last breath. No evidence, no matter how compelling ... no treatment, no matter how successful will be acknowledged by the mainstream medical syndicate, because to do so would at minimum imply some culpability of vaccines because of their proven and admitted inclusion of heavy metals and other toxins.
That's the hard cold reality ... and if that means that ten's of thousands of children and their families must be denied effective treatment in order to avoid placing vaccination programs in jeopardy, and that is what this is all about ... that is the course that has been chosen.
As a personal note to you ... no one has ever become smarter or more informed by reading the same book over and over, while ignoring the many options available. Time for you to expand your horizons, if indeed you actually want to be accurately informed.
You can start by searching the phrase "detoxification and autism". There you will find a wealth of information that supports to a T, the experience I have had personally. Many practitioners and hundreds of success stories are there waiting to inform you.
Or you could just continue reciting to us out of that same one book.
Interesting trivia: The influenza commonly known as the Spanish Flu of 1918 was probably an equine (horse) flu that originated at Fort Riley in Kansas. Infected soldiers carried it to Europe during WWI.
Yet, this one seems to be different in how it retards the brain. The other things you and old cold gave as examples most of those just give side effects, not altering the brain and body.
By the way the only stupid question is "the one" not asked!
That's a cliche' which was never really true. There are stupid questions. Actually, there are more stupid questions than there are stupid people, since each one has more than one question,. making stupid questions rather common.
That's all modern medicine does ... treat symptoms. They don't cure anything! There is no money in curing disease ... the profits are in treating disease symptoms.
Look ... are you aware of the fact that 1 in 5 Americans are taking one type of psychotropic drug or another, with revenues exceeding 100 Million dollars annually? And do you know how these drugs work in the brain? If you answer yes, then call the manufacturers and let them know, because they admit in their own product literature that they don't know how they work ... they jut know they do work.
Do you understand that, contrary to the many times we hear about chemical imbalances in the brain, nobody really can tell you what chemicals are missing or how much of any of them you should have? Do you understand that there is no clinical test to determine a chemical imbalance exists, and that any such diagnosis is pure speculation, bordering wild guesses?
Lots of people operate under false perceptions about modern medicine, and how it deals with disease. The majority consensus is absolutely wrong on virtually every belief they hold as proven truth, from high cholesterol to cancer treatment, and everything in between.
But it's virtually impossible to tell someone that everything they believe is true, is actually false. Nobody is willing to give such a thought a moment's consideration. Consequently, they will continue to do as they are told without questioning a single thing, until the moment they die.
Glad we've got that straight, so why imply that alcohol use causes NTDs? Pesticide exposure has a very weak positive correlation with NTD. Alcohol, not at all.
I totally agree with you. To hear the establishment ghouls tell it, a pregnant woman who consumes a glass of wine should be placed in prison .... but you must get your flu shot!!! If you don't, that too is child abuse.
Forget the fact that it was NEVER considered a good idea for pregnant women to receive such vaccines, as well as most other medications during pregnancy in the past ... but it seems medical science is so much smarter these days
I totally agree with you. To hear the establishment ghouls tell it, a pregnant woman who consumes a glass of wine should be placed in prison .... but you must get your flu shot!!! If you don't, that too is child abuse.
Forget the fact that it was NEVER considered a good idea for pregnant women to receive such vaccines, as well as most other medications during pregnancy in the past ... but it seems medical science is so much smarter these days
What do you expect, with all the pharmaceuticals consumed and we pis and crap in our drinking water.
We all share in the blame. For decades we all filled our landfills with batteries and fluorescent lights containing lead and mercury which in turn leached into our water supplies. We all drove cars spewing lead into the air which settled into the soil. We used the pesticides and herbicides that made our homes bug free and our lawns neat and tidy. We embraced whatever convenience made our lives easy without any concern about the consequences.
It is easy to blame the corporations who manufactured the products which poisoned our environment, but they were only producing what would sell, and in the end we the public created the market for pollutants.
It is necessary for us to understand that if we are to be empowered to eliminate the market for these kind of products going forward.
That's a cliche' which was never really true. There are stupid questions. Actually, there are more stupid questions than there are stupid people, since each one has more than one question,. making stupid questions rather common.
IMO this goes along with don't bother to read the Bible we "the church" will interpret for you. Why make it easy for the people to wonder for themselves. Do you know how many teachers would say that's a "stupid question"......there's stupid questions, then there are those who ward off questions by claiming they're "stupid questions."
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That's all modern medicine does ... treat symptoms. They don't cure anything! There is no money in curing disease ... the profits are in treating disease symptoms.
Yes, and I've known this since I started deciding my own health issues. Which, has been since 19 yrs of age, discovering birth control pills are not good for women.
Cure the disease or pain the doctor no longer has you coming back.
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Look ... are you aware of the fact that 1 in 5 Americans are taking one type of psychotropic drug or another, with revenues exceeding 100 Million dollars annually? And do you know how these drugs work in the brain? If you answer yes, then call the manufacturers and let them know, because they admit in their own product literature that they don't know how they work ... they jut know they do work.
Yes and you'd probably be surprised at how many of these are Christians and people who don't work for a living. Plus, have you noticed a product is out on the market and 1 yr later lawyers are advertising suing for the same medication that was to help people. Yet, side effects are damaging, why wasn't this known before it was put out on the market.
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Do you understand that, contrary to the many times we hear about chemical imbalances in the brain, nobody really can tell you what chemicals are missing or how much of any of them you should have? Do you understand that there is no clinical test to determine a chemical imbalance exists, and that any such diagnosis is pure speculation, bordering wild guesses?
So, are you saying science hasn't become God? Yes, this I agree with..........
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Lots of people operate under false perceptions about modern medicine, and how it deals with disease. The majority consensus is absolutely wrong on virtually every belief they hold as proven truth, from high cholesterol to cancer treatment, and everything in between.
But it's virtually impossible to tell someone that everything they believe is true, is actually false. Nobody is willing to give such a thought a moment's consideration. Consequently, they will continue to do as they are told without questioning a single thing, until the moment they die.
One good example........diet coke & diet pepsi are known to cause tumors in rats. Yet, the companies have hidden this or put it off as not of much concern. People are wondering why they have cancer, while soda is the number one drink most people consume!
I also tend to lean toward this below as a problem. My girlfriend w/ autistic twins was hooked on Big Gulps when Seven 11 opened she was there for a Big Gulp and bought one on the way home from work at 5:00. She was addicted, she had been told by her doctors to stop drinking it 2 years before she died of a brain tumor. The doctor asked her husband if she had quit he answered, "he thought she had." It wasn't until he was cleaning out the pantry and found 2 cases tucked behind the paper rolls.
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In 14 years, I've spoken to a lot of informants and could give a course on how manufacturers of aspartame manipulate studies, and mislead the public. You simply cannot get a chemical poison like aspartame, a deadly, deadly neurotoxic drug, and carcinogen, to show safety unless you manipulate the studies for that purpose.
One study pivotal in the approval of aspartame was a 52-week oral toxicity study on 7 infant monkeys. Five had grand mal seizures and one died. However, it's very well known that aspartame is a seizure triggering drug, and interacts with anti-seizure medication and all medication and vaccines. It damages the mitochondria of the cells; this is one of the reasons, and, of course, it is a chemical hypersensitization agent that triggers polychemical sensitivity syndrome.
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Yet, side effects are damaging, why wasn't this known before it was put out on the market.
