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Old 04-01-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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We already have age laws for weapons, for hunting, buying ammo, felons and...other laws...... The scope creep of the gun ban crowd is extreme.

What are the stats for 12 yr olds causing driving accidents and death? I'm "guessing" pretty small. The ones that do are an accident just like 12 yr olds that find a loaded gun vs a set of car keys in the ignition.
The stats for 12 year olds causing driving accidents is low because it's illegal for 12 year olds to drive, you can blame the anti car nuts for those stupid laws.

As I stated, what laws would have prevented these guys from breaking and entering???
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Old 04-01-2014, 06:11 PM
 
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Owning a car nor driving are not found in the Constitution(save for the 10th Amendment)
But the word 'regulated' is.
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Old 04-01-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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In a legitimate situation, background checks work perfectly. This is a burglary, and it is pretty difficult to secure every weapon. The stole 2 guns and a BB gun, not a huge haul, so I would assume most weapons were secured.
I hope you aren't serious about that first sentence!
Remember the Navy Yard shooter? He is on security camera video filling out the proper form, and PASSING THE BACKGROUND CHECK! He then looked at an AR-15, but decided he didn't want it, and bought a shotgun.
He then sawed it off (THAT'S ILLEGAL, BY THE WAY!), and proceeded to shoot up the Navy Yard!
Yeah, the background check worked PERFECTLY there, didn't it!
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Old 04-01-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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Looks like several laws were broken. Those laws didn't prevent anything, either. Should we scrub burglary laws, too?
Sure, obviously theft laws didn't prevent these burglars.
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Old 04-01-2014, 06:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The stats for 12 year olds causing driving accidents is low because it's illegal for 12 year olds to drive, you can blame the anti car nuts for those stupid laws.

As I stated, what laws would have prevented these guys from breaking and entering???
Isn't that answer obvious? None.

No new laws either. Even banning all weapons doesn't get rid of an existing 300 million of them.
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Old 04-01-2014, 06:18 PM
 
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Isn't that answer obvious? None.
So why bother making laws against theft, thieves obviously don't respect them
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Old 04-01-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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The stats for 12 year olds causing driving accidents is low because it's illegal for 12 year olds to drive, you can blame the anti car nuts for those stupid laws.

As I stated, what laws would have prevented these guys from breaking and entering???
Oh but is legal, just not on public roads.

Not a dam law stops people from breaking laws...

Leftist think laws constrict human nature, they rare do..if ever.
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Old 04-01-2014, 06:22 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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So why bother making laws against theft, thieves obviously don't respect them
Why would you make a new law where there is already "laws"? This happens all the time. Example, they just banned all booze on the beach. If they would have enforced existing laws like, drunk in public, loitering, underage drinking there would have been no "sense" of the need to create a new one.

Do you think it was the first rodeo of the guys that stole those guns?
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There are so many moves that result in checkmate here. My move would be: The fact that something doesn't solve 100% of a problem doesn't means it doesn't solve some of the problem. The logical fallacy that anything done - strike that - ... that anything you don't like which is done must necessarily be a perfect and complete solution to the problem it is aimed at addressing is a scurrilous attempt to dodge the reasonable foundation for things you don't like.
Only laws that are 100% effective should remain on the books, if they can't meet that standard they need to discarded and deemed ineffective. If a felon cannot be prevented from stealing guns from a pawn shop then obviously background checks do not work, surely you can see the connection.
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Only laws that are 100% effective should remain on the books, if they can't meet that standard they need to discarded and deemed ineffective. If a felon cannot be prevented from stealing guns from a pawn shop then obviously background checks do not work, surely you can see the connection.
He cant..
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