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Originally Posted by Oldhag1
One thing for sure, you aren't a libertarian. Honestly, you sound like a moderate Democrat, the exception being your prolife stance.
Thats not an exception. Pro life is a very general term, but i have only met 2 or 3 people who described it as all abortion should be illegal. THe rest who call themselves pro life but believe that you should be able to have one if your life is threatened or if you were raped.
Hi all, just another rant about feeling no representation for my political beliefs. I'm an independent, pro gay marriage, atheist, for high quality schools, pro environment but at the other end of the spectrum, I'm pro life, pro business, and low tax to a certain extent. Against a police state, for moderate gun control, I own guns, pro US intervention overseas. I would say my favorite presidents are Theodore Roosevelt and Eisenhower, both Republicans. I favor amnesty and the ACA. Any modern day politicians that are close to that? For a long time I considered myself a libertarian, and still feel influenced by that, but now consider myself a moderate and that government has a correct role and a moderate sized government is fine. I feel that a lot of the right wing is terrible for America, such as Brownback, Rick Perry, Huckebee (sp?), Jindal, etc. I have respect for Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, even if they have some different beliefs then myself. I also hold some respect for the Clinton's, but not many other democrats, maybe Brown in California is okay.
Hi all, just another rant about feeling no representation for my political beliefs. I'm an independent, pro gay marriage, atheist, for high quality schools, pro environment but at the other end of the spectrum, I'm pro life, pro business, and low tax to a certain extent. Against a police state, for moderate gun control, I own guns, pro US intervention overseas. I would say my favorite presidents are Theodore Roosevelt and Eisenhower, both Republicans. I favor amnesty and the ACA. Any modern day politicians that are close to that? For a long time I considered myself a libertarian, and still feel influenced by that, but now consider myself a moderate and that government has a correct role and a moderate sized government is fine. I feel that a lot of the right wing is terrible for America, such as Brownback, Rick Perry, Huckebee (sp?), Jindal, etc. I have respect for Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, even if they have some different beliefs then myself. I also hold some respect for the Clinton's, but not many other democrats, maybe Brown in California is okay.
You need to think through your beliefs instead of just feeling them ie; what effect will amnesty and the ACA really have on 'business' and on 'low taxes'?
Figure out your priorities.
What looks good as an isolated issue can actually make things worse when you examine it's larger effect. Politics isn't a buffet of separate issues that you pick and choose from.
It's funny that you consider fiscal moderates like Huckabee and Brownback "right-wing" but not Ted Cruz, who all liberals consider the most terrifying right-winger in the universe. There are more factors in the giant American political spectrum than one's acceptance/non-acceptance of a miniscule gay minority...
Roosevelt and Eisenhower(and JFK) are politicians from an era when America was a much smaller, younger and more politically homogenous and confident country. Roosevelt was a flaming imperialist and Eisenhower rounded up and deported 1.5 million Mexicans in "Operation Wetb@ck". Someone like that would be flayed alive by the MSM/Liberals today.
Hi all, just another rant about feeling no representation for my political beliefs. I'm an independent, pro gay marriage, atheist, for high quality schools, pro environment but at the other end of the spectrum, I'm pro life, pro business, and low tax to a certain extent. Against a police state, for moderate gun control, I own guns, pro US intervention overseas. I would say my favorite presidents are Theodore Roosevelt and Eisenhower, both Republicans. I favor amnesty and the ACA. Any modern day politicians that are close to that? For a long time I considered myself a libertarian, and still feel influenced by that, but now consider myself a moderate and that government has a correct role and a moderate sized government is fine. I feel that a lot of the right wing is terrible for America, such as Brownback, Rick Perry, Huckebee (sp?), Jindal, etc. I have respect for Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, even if they have some different beliefs then myself. I also hold some respect for the Clinton's, but not many other democrats, maybe Brown in California is okay.
Why would you want to put a label on yourself??? Things like labels and partisan politics are why this country is so polarised. Just vote for the guy or girl that represents your views the best, regardless of whether or not they have a {D} or an {R} in front of their name.
Last edited by WhipperSnapper 88; 04-05-2014 at 12:13 AM..
However it seems you have fallen for the BS. I say that because you use terms like "Pro Business", I have yet to meet anyone who described themselves as anti business as well as the people you admire.
Ted Cruz being on your list of People you respect is a little surprising considering he disagrees with alot of what you said, And Perry actually agrees with alot of what you said any didnt include him on your list and specifically called him terrible.
I believe it has to do with small business owners. Pro business equates to getting rid of costly regulations. Small businesses can't compete. Level the playing field against corporations.
George McGovern -
“I’m for protecting the health and well-being of both workers and consumers. I’m for a clean environment and economic justice. But I’m convinced we can pursue those worthy goals and still cut down vastly on the incredible paperwork, the complicated tax forms, the number of minute regulations, and the seemingly endless reporting requirements that afflict American business. Many businesses, especially small independents such as the Stratford Inn, simply can’t pass such costs on to their customers and remain competitive or profitable.”
I think you're like most people. Liberal on some issues, and conservative on others. There are very few people who are totally conservative or totally liberal. The ones that are just yell the loudest so it seems that way.
Meh. There are a variety of political doctrines and inclinations that varying people believe in. In the OP's case if I were him I'd call myself a centrist, in the "mixed-and-matched doctrine" sense of the word.
You can be nothing. When it comes time to vote you make a list and who ever fulfills the most things on your list you vote for that person. The person you vote for has to buy into the non-sense of their party, but you don’t have to. Once you are something, by default you have to sign off the things that are not on your list. So be nothing and vote for people, not a party. You can be in the party of “the mean.”
Someone here once made an observation ( I wish I could credit the poster ) that the states really aren't red or blue, but that they are actually a shade of purple, determined by the leanings of the majority. I think most individuals fit that description as well. I really try to apply these thoughts about people when a few posters here start raising my blood pressure, it helps me remember that we each want whats best for this country and our families, but we don't all agree on what it takes.
Tb
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