Where do I fit politically (racist, Brown, Clinton, Obama)

[Mattks]

Hi all, just another rant about feeling no representation for my political beliefs. I'm an independent, pro gay marriage, atheist, for high quality schools, pro environment but at the other end of the spectrum, I'm pro life, pro business, and low tax to a certain extent. Against a police state, for moderate gun control, I own guns, pro US intervention overseas. I would say my favorite presidents are Theodore Roosevelt and Eisenhower, both Republicans. I favor amnesty and the ACA. Any modern day politicians that are close to that? For a long time I considered myself a libertarian, and still feel influenced by that, but now consider myself a moderate and that government has a correct role and a moderate sized government is fine. I feel that a lot of the right wing is terrible for America, such as Brownback, Rick Perry, Huckebee (sp?), Jindal, etc. I have respect for Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, even if they have some different beliefs then myself. I also hold some respect for the Clinton's, but not many other democrats, maybe Brown in California is okay.

[greywar]

Why label it? If you had to pick one go with Independent. Theres no law saying you have to buy in completely on one side or the other.

Course you WILL get labeled here by people. Depends on what you discuss you liberal conservative RINO collectivist.

[ChuteTheMall]

You are alone.

Favoring Obamacare conflicts with whatever libertarian or conservative fantasies you entertain.

[MJJersey]

You are not anything; you're smart. Don't put a label on yourself.

[EugeneOnegin]

Originally Posted by Mattks

Hi all, just another rant about feeling no representation for my political beliefs. I'm an independent, pro gay marriage, atheist, for high quality schools, pro environment but at the other end of the spectrum, I'm pro life, pro business, and low tax to a certain extent. Against a police state, for moderate gun control, I own guns, pro US intervention overseas. I would say my favorite presidents are Theodore Roosevelt and Eisenhower, both Republicans. I favor amnesty and the ACA. Any modern day politicians that are close to that? For a long time I considered myself a libertarian, and still feel influenced by that, but now consider myself a moderate and that government has a correct role and a moderate sized government is fine. I feel that a lot of the right wing is terrible for America, such as Brownback, Rick Perry, Huckebee (sp?), Jindal, etc. I have respect for Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, even if they have some different beliefs then myself. I also hold some respect for the Clinton's, but not many other democrats, maybe Brown in California is okay.

Clearly you're a Faux news-watching racist RWNJ white male conservative using racist dog whistle codewords that really mean you hate minorities and women.

Originally Posted by Mattks

Hi all, just another rant about feeling no representation for my political beliefs. I'm an independent, pro gay marriage, atheist, for high quality schools, pro environment but at the other end of the spectrum, I'm pro life, pro business, and low tax to a certain extent. Against a police state, for moderate gun control, I own guns, pro US intervention overseas. I would say my favorite presidents are Theodore Roosevelt and Eisenhower, both Republicans. I favor amnesty and the ACA. Any modern day politicians that are close to that? For a long time I considered myself a libertarian, and still feel influenced by that, but now consider myself a moderate and that government has a correct role and a moderate sized government is fine. I feel that a lot of the right wing is terrible for America, such as Brownback, Rick Perry, Huckebee (sp?), Jindal, etc. I have respect for Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, even if they have some different beliefs then myself. I also hold some respect for the Clinton's, but not many other democrats, maybe Brown in California is okay.

And also a Koolaid-drinking socialist community organizing multicultural redistributionist Saul Alinsky *******.

Just depends on which issue you're discussing and which group is doing the pigeonholing.

[kidkaos2]

Originally Posted by Mattks

Hi all, just another rant about feeling no representation for my political beliefs. I'm an independent, pro gay marriage, atheist, for high quality schools, pro environment but at the other end of the spectrum, I'm pro life, pro business, and low tax to a certain extent. Against a police state, for moderate gun control, I own guns, pro US intervention overseas. I would say my favorite presidents are Theodore Roosevelt and Eisenhower, both Republicans. I favor amnesty and the ACA. Any modern day politicians that are close to that? For a long time I considered myself a libertarian, and still feel influenced by that, but now consider myself a moderate and that government has a correct role and a moderate sized government is fine. I feel that a lot of the right wing is terrible for America, such as Brownback, Rick Perry, Huckebee (sp?), Jindal, etc. I have respect for Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, even if they have some different beliefs then myself. I also hold some respect for the Clinton's, but not many other democrats, maybe Brown in California is okay.

Everything but the ACA there is libertarian conservative. However, the ACA is pretty much a dealbreaker. It's kind of like saying I'm a Catholic, I believe in purgatory and angels and demons and exorcism but I just don't believe in Jesus. That's not a debatable point within Catholicism. You can be a pro life libertarian or a pro choice libertarian. You can be an isolationist libertarian or a strong defense libertarian. But if you believe the government has the moral authority to compel people to buy a good or service which they do not want to buy, then you aren't libertarian. That is at the core of libertarian belief.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Mattks

Hi all, just another rant about feeling no representation for my political beliefs. I'm an independent, pro gay marriage, atheist, for high quality schools, pro environment but at the other end of the spectrum, I'm pro life, pro business, and low tax to a certain extent. Against a police state, for moderate gun control, I own guns, pro US intervention overseas. I would say my favorite presidents are Theodore Roosevelt and Eisenhower, both Republicans. I favor amnesty and the ACA. Any modern day politicians that are close to that? For a long time I considered myself a libertarian, and still feel influenced by that, but now consider myself a moderate and that government has a correct role and a moderate sized government is fine. I feel that a lot of the right wing is terrible for America, such as Brownback, Rick Perry, Huckebee (sp?), Jindal, etc. I have respect for Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, even if they have some different beliefs then myself. I also hold some respect for the Clinton's, but not many other democrats, maybe Brown in California is okay.

You sir are a Liberal.

However it seems you have fallen for the BS. I say that because you use terms like "Pro Business", I have yet to meet anyone who described themselves as anti business as well as the people you admire.

Ted Cruz being on your list of People you respect is a little surprising considering he disagrees with alot of what you said, And Perry actually agrees with alot of what you said any didnt include him on your list and specifically called him terrible.

[Oldhag1]

Originally Posted by Mattks

Hi all, just another rant about feeling no representation for my political beliefs. I'm an independent, pro gay marriage, atheist, for high quality schools, pro environment but at the other end of the spectrum, I'm pro life, pro business, and low tax to a certain extent. Against a police state, for moderate gun control, I own guns, pro US intervention overseas. I would say my favorite presidents are Theodore Roosevelt and Eisenhower, both Republicans. I favor amnesty and the ACA. Any modern day politicians that are close to that? For a long time I considered myself a libertarian, and still feel influenced by that, but now consider myself a moderate and that government has a correct role and a moderate sized government is fine. I feel that a lot of the right wing is terrible for America, such as Brownback, Rick Perry, Huckebee (sp?), Jindal, etc. I have respect for Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, even if they have some different beliefs then myself. I also hold some respect for the Clinton's, but not many other democrats, maybe Brown in California is okay.

One thing for sure, you aren't a libertarian. Honestly, you sound like a moderate Democrat, the exception being your prolife stance.

[mohawkx]

Don't ever lock yourself in a room. Only one of you will come out.

[desertdetroiter]

Why are you asking people here?

Half of these people don't even know what they are.