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To all the gun haters....Holland has a no gun policy and this is causing more and more robberies to happen with guns since criminals do have guns and always will have a way to get their hands on them.
This jewelers couple decided to protect themselves even though it is not allowed in Holland and it saved their life!
People who are against guns should not have guns, let the rest of us be able to defend ourselves and I wish my grand parents had guns because that way they could have done something back against the Nazi's and they may have survived instead of dying in Auschwitz.
Holland also has an overall rate of gun violence far lower than the US does. You know why? Because guns are hard to get there.
Holland also has an overall rate of gun violence far lower than the US does. You know why? Because guns are hard to get there.
Explain your logic please. There have been many mass stabbings and here in the U.S., there's approximately 2 deaths caused by guns for every 1 death not caused by guns. Countries who have more 2 story homes will have more deaths from falling. Countries that have more dogs, prescription medicine, pools, cars, cleaning fluid under the sink, anything will have more deaths from that item... What's your point? Is it that if Australia and the U.S., for example, have 2 deaths by guns per capita each year, but AU removes all guns and instead has 2 deaths per capita by knives instead of by gun violence. Is your logic is that's a victory? That you solved a problems by banning guns, and AU is better than the US for it? I do not get the Liberal, foreigner, and antigun logic that killing is okay as long as it's not done with a gun.
The US has an entrenched urban gang crisis that is not comparable to any other developed western nation. It's more similar to many Latin American nations in that regard than somewhere like Holland. It's not a matter of having a "smaller population," since we can also compare individual states to other nations, and they almost always come out worse.
This (copyright-free) map shows what I mean:
In 2012, there were only three states in the entire union with a lower murder rate than the nation of Canada, even though Canada as a whole includes some large cities. But they don't have an American-style urban gang crisis. While there are some Canadian street gangs, their murder levels are too low to shift the national rate all that much. The same is not true in America, where urban violence causes the rate to jump.
The US has an entrenched urban gang crisis that is not comparable to any other developed western nation. It's more similar to many Latin American nations in that regard than somewhere like Holland. It's not a matter of having a "smaller population," since we can also compare individual states to other nations, and they almost always come out worse.
This (copyright-free) map shows what I mean:
In 2012, there were only three states in the entire union with a lower murder rate than the nation of Canada, even though Canada as a whole includes some large cities. But they don't have an American-style urban gang crisis. While there are some Canadian street gangs, their murder levels are too low to shift the national rate all that much. The same is not true in America, where urban violence causes the rate to jump.
Also a open border with Mexico does not help things.
Holland also has an overall rate of gun violence far lower than the US does. You know why? Because guns are hard to get there.
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Originally Posted by tablemtn
The US has an entrenched urban gang crisis that is not comparable to any other developed western nation. It's more similar to many Latin American nations in that regard than somewhere like Holland. It's not a matter of having a "smaller population," since we can also compare individual states to other nations, and they almost always come out worse.
This (copyright-free) map shows what I mean:
In 2012, there were only three states in the entire union with a lower murder rate than the nation of Canada, even though Canada as a whole includes some large cities. But they don't have an American-style urban gang crisis. While there are some Canadian street gangs, their murder levels are too low to shift the national rate all that much. The same is not true in America, where urban violence causes the rate to jump.
Also what about overall violence crime, beating, stabbing, car jacking, home inversion. as not factored in, also as the are killed with a gun that is the only measure that the leftist care about...
It's harder to compare due to different definitions of crimes, reporting rates, and so on. Sometimes this kind of information can vary a lot between adjacent cities, depending on how a department classifies its reports. Murder is somewhat more stable, though even there some departments have tried to "juice" the numbers in various ways. But when fraud is found it is usually within a certain band (like 10% or so), while other crimes can be very, very badly underreported or misclassified.
The 2013 map will probably be ready in October, after the FBI releases its annual "Uniform Crime Report." Canada's numbers are released through Statistics Canada, usually late in the summer. Other numbers like the Bahamas are actually a lot easier to find, due to local newspapers keeping running tallies.
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