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If it was such a problem they would of tried to take the cattle away years ago. Since Bundy has gone to court numerous times and BLM stopped getting payment why wasn't this taken care of then ? Why all of a sudden now ?
Because Bundy was taking advantage of the fact this acreage is desolate and isolated and very diffictult to access. And He often agreed that he would do things and then did not. And then he would sue again tying things up.
The thing has been building up for 20 years and finally blew up. And we now say why not sooner. Next time the BLM may simply shoot all the cattle not easily rounded up.
I looked at that paper, and anyone who has had experience with the raising of livestock would question its validity just as I did. It is a lot of conjecture with a modicum of basis in fact, but the facts that it includes are based on what could happen in certain situations, not on what happens in every situation. In short, without proof that Bundy overgrazed the land that paper has zero bearing on this case.
You still haven't shown any evidence that the BLM performed any maintenance on the land in question. If they haven't, then Bundy's grazing cattle haven't cost us a cent.
So you think all the cattle in the US cause damage to lands from grazing except Bundy's.
So you think all the cattle in the US cause damage to lands from grazing except Bundy's.
No, I know that proper grazing by cattle is actually beneficial to the land. On the other hand, you seem to be under the impression that any form of grazing hurts the land, which is a completely false argument.
So, when BLM was formed and put in control, they arbitrarily told Bundy to F-off the land that his family has homesteaded(made improvements) for 140 years.
It wasn't about money or turtles. It was about control. People have had enough.
Actually it is. There are some interesting issues. In some I am probably on your side. I think the tortoise things is an absolute put-on. And on that basis I think Bundy is getting screwed. But you need to go after the environmentalist and attack them...not the BLM. It is your congressperson that is doing the harm.
And I think that the grazing of cattle on scrub desert needs tight control. Anyone who think cowboys won't waste the area they graze just does not know enough cowboys. And sure it is an accident that there is a high component of feral cows in Bundy's herds. Sure...just unlucky. Bet they all end up in Bundy's pocket in the end.
People have not "had enough". Virtually none even understand the issue as has been well illustrated this week. A sanctimonious operator has again screwed the system for another couple of years of operation. And he may even manage to write a book and make some real money.
His cattle were all healthy. You do not have healthy cattle by Over Grazing your grass.
Pasture is just a term used by Ranchers that means where their cattle graze.
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