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Nothing wrong with them, but I wasn't overly impressed. He seemed to be acting. Carter, as weak as his presidency was, sounded truthful and direct. I trusted Carter. I didn't trust Reagan. Reagan seemed like an opportunist, while Carter seemed to honestly want to help people.
Reagan was pro-worker and anti-corporation when he was a Democrat. He's the one who changed, not the Democratic Party. Enough with the commie talk. Communism is dead. The Democrats have been taken over alright, but not by communists. They bow to corporate interests as well. At least the Democrats have a semblance of concern for the common man.
Yes "weak" as we are now in our presidency. Only problem like you say carter seemed truthful. Our guy doesn't even do that and is more weak than Jimbo.
Communism is on the rise in the USofA not even going to mention the rest of the world. Look around. My Lord. How much more screaming do you need brother? Corporations? I was just on a thread where the same folks who despise big bro were all for Monsanto and the like the big GMO corporations. Now why is that? Middle Class is beying decimated. There won't be one much longer. That is how it goes. IMO you get what you work for but the way the government operates now you can't. Buddy of mine wanted to expand his car shop he's had in this town for thirty years...............city council dropped so much green **** and taxes on his ass to just add two more garages he may leave. This is what is going on. Tyrants running the ship.
If you weren't an adult during the time it is hard to understand. When he became president the economy was horrible, there had been threats of gas rationing, the interest rate was so high people couldn't borrow money for homes or businesses, there was runaway inflation, and some small backwards country was holding Americans hostage thumbing their noses at us while the rest of the world laughed. Carter was considered ineffectual and weak on both domestic and foreign policy. We had an unelected president before that, and of course, Watergate. The bar for Reagan to be seen as a savior was not high.
Yes we kind a talk of this point, but due all of the above Carter gave what they call stagnate inflation. I found this interest from Wikipedia .
Index = Unemployment rate + Inflation rate
<li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7">7 External links Misery index - era by U.S president[edit]
President time served ave low high start end change
Carter 1977-1980 16.26 12.60-apr 78 21.98 Jan80 12.72 19.72 plus 7
What he is is regarded by many as the most over-rated POTUS of the 20th century as well as a prime example of conservative hypocrisy. i.e. He GREW the government he alleged was THE problem as well as spent like a drunken sailor on things that suited his agenda despite the claimed conservative opposition to government spending.
I'm confused?!?! If you are condeming Regan for doing the above why does Obama get a free pass on doing the same thing?
Big difference between a car bomb (Lebanon) and a concerted attack (Benghazi) which could have been defended better. Two different events for very different reasons. Four dead or 241 dead makes no difference to them or their families and friends.
PLUS Beghazi could have been prevented, not some on the car bomb (Lebanon).
If you weren't an adult during the time it is hard to understand. When he became president the economy was horrible, there had been threats of gas rationing, the interest rate was so high people couldn't borrow money for homes or businesses, there was runaway inflation, and some small backwards country was holding Americans hostage thumbing their noses at us while the rest of the world laughed. Carter was considered ineffectual and weak on both domestic and foreign policy. We had an unelected president before that, and of course, Watergate. The bar for Reagan to be seen as a savior was not high.
I agree with most of what you said, except for the last part of the bar not being set high.
Much of what Reagan did, cannot be viewed in a vacuum nor with a modern lens. He needed to right the ship, and then get us back on course.
Regardless of the type of debates this thread will spawn, one thing is for certain. Reagan, unlike Obama, was able to get things done with a (D) controlled House & Senate. He knew when to make compromises for the good of the country, not stick to some intractable ideology. Sure he raised taxes and did things which are not conservative orthodoxy, but he did it while maintaining overall principles, not being blindly led by them.
There is a video of him being questioned about tax increases on his way to Marine One where he basically said, you have to compromise to get things done.
Lastly, many people forget that Reagan was well liked, even among people who had very different politics. For instance he and Tip O'Neal disagreed about most issues, but they worked together for the benefit of the country. Reagan knew how to make everyone look good, not just himself.
Obama on the other hand made some deals in the early part of his 1st term, then threw the very people who compromised with him under the bus. You do not lead by always making the other side out to be evil and yourself beyond question. Many in Washington just do not trust Obama to keep his word, or not attack them after they make a deal with him.
Obama makes one hearken back to the days of Carter, which if you know American history, is not a compliment.
I agree with most of what you said, except for the last part of the bar not being set high.
Much of what Reagan did, cannot be viewed in a vacuum nor with a modern lens. He needed to right the ship, and then get us back on course.
Regardless of the type of debates this thread will spawn, one thing is for certain. Reagan, unlike Obama, was able to get things done with a (D) controlled House & Senate. He knew when to make compromises for the good of the country, not stick to some intractable ideology. Sure he raised taxes and did things which are not conservative orthodoxy, but he did it while maintaining overall principles, not being blindly led by them.
There is a video of him being questioned about tax increases on his way to Marine One where he basically said, you have to compromise to get things done.
Lastly, many people forget that Reagan was well liked, even among people who had very different politics. For instance he and Tip O'Neal disagreed about most issues, but they worked together for the benefit of the country. Reagan knew how to make everyone look good, not just himself.
Obama on the other hand made some deals in the early part of his 1st term, then threw the very people who compromised with him under the bus. You do not lead by always making the other side out to be evil and yourself beyond question. Many in Washington just do not trust Obama to keep his word, or not attack them after they make a deal with him.
Obama makes one hearken back to the days of Carter, which if you know American history, is not a compliment.
Great post, reps to you! I remember Ronald Reagan said one time that if he got even 60 percent of what he wanted he considered that to be a victory. Even someone as liberal as Ted Kennedy understood the importance of compromise and often worked side by side with Republicans he disagreed with on just about everything in order to get things accomplished. Clinton worked with Gingrich on many issues as well. Those days of both sides working together for the good of the country are sadly long gone.
Well, he certainly made a good face for George H. W's first two terms as President. Things really fell apart when he wasn't around for the third.
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Carter had stagnate inflation
